Peasants Perspective
Peasants Perspective: A Voice from the Edge of Freedom
Join Taylor Johnatakis, a self-proclaimed “peasant” turned podcaster, on an unfiltered journey through family, faith, and the fight for American ideals. From the depths of DC Jail—where he recorded during a 14-month sentence tied to January 6—to his triumphant return home after a Trump clemency in 2025, Taylor delivers raw, heartfelt commentary for the common man. Expect a mix of gritty storytelling, reflections on liberty lost and reclaimed, and timeless lessons drawn from his life as a septic designer, father, and reluctant rebel. Whether he’s reading Dr. Seuss to his kids or dissecting the state of the republic, Peasants Perspective is a bold, unpolished call to stay grounded amidst chaos. Subscribe for a front-row seat to a story that’s as real as it gets—no filter, no apologies.
Peasants Perspective
This is what life looks like when you're just a peasant in the system.
Ever wondered what it feels like to be a small fish in an ocean controlled by powerful predators? This episode peels back the curtain on the everyday experience of average Americans navigating systems designed to keep them marginalized.
We kick off with hilariously revealing prison stories that unexpectedly illuminate how power hierarchies function even in the most controlled environments. From casual conversations with Al Qaeda members to Polynesian cartel leaders, these interactions mirror the larger power dynamics we all face daily.
The conversation shifts to examine Trump's strategic use of tariffs against China – a rare instance where economic warfare was wielded not just between nations, but potentially as leverage for American citizens. This stands in stark contrast to the Biden administration's policies, where media complicity in covering cognitive decline reveals disturbing parallels to cult-like behavior. As one reporter admits on camera, questioning obvious impairment made him feel isolated despite evidence everyone could see.
Perhaps most shocking is our deep dive into the USDA's race-based loan forgiveness program. A whistleblower reveals how the government explicitly excluded white farmers from relief programs, then circumvented court rulings by repackaging the same discriminatory policy under different legislation while only notifying certain farmers. This represents institutional corruption at its most blatant – rules applied differently depending on immutable characteristics rather than need.
The Gretchen Whitmer kidnapping case serves as another cautionary tale, with evidence suggesting government agencies may have manufactured crimes through aggressive use of confidential informants and agent provocateurs rather than simply investigating existing criminal conspiracies.
JD Vance emerges as an unexpected voice of reason, offering cryptocurrency as a potential shield against financial censorship and government overreach – a rare acknowledgment from someone in power that the system itself may be fundamentally flawed.
Ready to see the matrix for what it truly is? This episode will forever change how you understand your place in America's modern hierarchy. Remember – knowing you're a peasant is the first step toward refusing to be treated like one.
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Speaker 3:Every time we turn around, we're getting screwed. Oh, the revolution's going to be through podcasting for sure. That's the only way we talk. It's the little guys. The little guys that take the brunt of everything. It's got to stop. Little guys that take the brunt of everything. It's gotta stop. Peasants, man, we're just peasants, every one of us. You watch those old movies. You see the peasants in the background with the kings and queens walking around. We're those people. We're those people. The Do you know?
Speaker 1:what she said Let the meat take. Can you take?
Speaker 3:the bomb.
Speaker 4:We're getting screwed, man.
Speaker 6:Every time we turn, talk okay we're live.
Speaker 7:Are we live?
Speaker 6:again no go good morning what's happening? The worst produced show ever. What's going on?
Speaker 3:jeez so are we live or not? Yeah, we are. You guys, it's just so early in the pacific coast I don't know what to say oh my gosh okay, so, uh, can I get a confirmation in the chat that you can hear me now and that we're still broadcasting? Okay, all right, it looks like we're online.
Speaker 6:Yeah, we totally are.
Speaker 3:Okay, all right, I'm going to Good gravy. Well, that was fun. So I want to start three, two, one. Good morning peasants perspective. We've switched over our streaming something and we're figuring out. It doesn't tell us really when we've started, so it's kind of like you know, let's just roll with it. And now I'm getting the double back in my ear.
Speaker 6:Where's it coming from? I don't know there. How's that?
Speaker 3:Well, it's better for me.
Speaker 6:All right, okay, sweet, let's go. All right, sound, it's better for me all right.
Speaker 3:Okay, sweet, let's go. All right, sound check online. Okay, five by five. Back when I was in prison, I had a pretty funny little experience. So when I first get to missouri as well as I'm going through prison, I'm kind of like casually asking people so what are you in here for? Like, what are you in here for? Like, this is the most looking back.
Speaker 3:This is the craziest thing I did and it was like no one told me that I wasn't supposed to ask people why they were in prison. Because in the beginning with the J six it was like I'm in here for stage six, Don't punch me, you know. Like I'm in here for J six, Like I'm just, I'm not a real criminal, you know.
Speaker 3:Like, so I was pretty open about why I was around and I didn't really think that it was a big deal asking people Right, I didn't know. One day I was across the hall and there was this Al Qaeda guy across from me. I didn't know if it was Al Qaeda yet, but I'd heard rumors that there was Al Qaeda there and I was like, well, this guy's clearly Muslim. I could tell by you know the beard and the skin tone and the accent he's racist just might be the guy you know he might be the pakistani.
Speaker 3:They were talking about a profiler. I'm standing there with another guy who I'd come in with, who I had helped. We were, we came from oklahoma together, yeah and uh. Anyways, I'm like so what are you in here for? And he's like um, uh, terrorism charges and I was like okay, and he's like yeah that's it the guy that was next to me. He was dying like dying of shame, you know.
Speaker 3:It was like it was like being next to michael scott on the office. You know I was like, yeah, this is the most awkward thing I've ever watched. And I was like terrorism, huh yeah, me too. Kind of you know, I totally identify anyways he we used to play trivia together. He had domestic terrorist and the foreign terrorist trivia play in germany or florida.
Speaker 3:Yeah, he was really smart. It was kind of fun, uh, anyways. And so then, uh, one day I was sitting out on the bleachers and I was introduced to this guy and he was, uh, polynesian. I think he was samoan, it's irrelevant except for the fact that he was. They were running this huge trans-pacific cartel, and so when I asked him, like why are you here? He's like, oh, we got caught with cocaine. And I was like, oh, okay, cool. He's like, yeah, the boat we were on. He was like the boat we had, like we'd made a mistake. It was. It was, uh, registered in the united states. So the coast guard are the ones who picked us up. Oh, the coast guard, huh, guard, huh, how much cocaine did you get caught with? And he's like he's like 80 keys or no, 80,000 keys. And I was like, oh, and he's like, yeah, and we were actually running kind of light. I was like, alright, was this a container?
Speaker 6:ship. Yes.
Speaker 3:So here's a video of the Coast Guard. They made. They made a pickup. Okay, this isn't his case, but this made me think of it right, they made a pickup of cocaine and what's hilarious is when you watch this like putting this a cut. So he goes 80, 80, 000 or 88 000 kilos or whatever it was. I was like I did the math in my head real quick and I I was like, is that 180,000 pounds?
Speaker 3:And he's like, yeah, and I was like because there was another guy who was in Philadelphia that was going to get 30 years for having five pounds of cocaine. So when he's telling me this amount, I'm like shit Anyways.
Speaker 6:That's like a million years.
Speaker 3:That was just one boat. They had One that happened to be registered in the United States. The others they were able to get in and out without getting these little inspections Aloha. Anyways, that was a funny deal. He was a funny guy.
Speaker 6:That's my Simone.
Speaker 3:Yeah, well, he told me about you know, cause when I met someone like that, I was like, okay, well, you're going to have to tell me a little bit more about this cartel situation. How does it really work? Like, what's really going on here?
Speaker 3:Cause, believe it or not, this guy was mormon, so that was kind of like oh cool, like yeah, I mean I know my elders quorum president was always trafficking, you know, hundreds of thousands of pounds of cocaine. You know what I mean. So that didn't really like I'm like, that doesn't I'm, I'm at a loss here. So you need to explain what was really happening.
Speaker 6:How many uh people in the elders quorum do you have to get to come out to load the boat?
Speaker 3:so I anyways, long story short, let's just short, let's just as there was a bust or two, there was been a, a member of a banking family that kind of came and took over the operations and, uh, made things a lot smoother as far as transportation and whatnot. Yes, and it's a very well-known banking name that you would all recognize, and they gave his brother a large chunk of change. The banking, the drug trade, the arms trade, the slave trade, these are all one thing.
Speaker 3:These all flow together. This is power, right like that's what I learned meeting with the quite a few different people, and I'm being very coy into what I'm saying, so you think I'm saying a lot. I'm not okay. So, uh, another thing that happened. Just we kind of have a story that came and went in one day that we didn't really catch that much.
Speaker 3:So okay, there was an international trades court that made a ruling, that there was an appeals court of a trades court three three judge panel that made a ruling that trump was not allowed to do the tariffs, so set the tariffs back. Basically, like you know, the entire trade strategy and economic warfare and blah, blah, blah and all that just out the window, can't do it.
Speaker 3:Now, this kind of if this ruling held, this would put the United States at a massive disadvantage to every other country which controls their tariffs. Right, the idea that somehow, you know, you'd have to go to Congress, which would mean you'd have 400 and something people running around making deals with foreign countries. Could you this? Could you imagine so? Anyways, um, the court said couldn't do it. Well, the very next morning the appeals court, us district court said at put a stay on that order. So trump got a loss. That was a huge loss. That then turned into a win, insofar as it gets a stay, and now it's going to have to go to probably the full panel of the appeals court or the supreme court yeah, they'll just bat it around yeah, so, um, and one of the things I want to show you here is this um, this is norm eisen, let's norm eisen.
Speaker 6:He was a disney guy, right no I thought he was an executive at disney no, that's a different guy different eisen yeah, that's uh mark eisen
Speaker 3:I don't know, but norma eisen's the lawyer. Okay, okay, so let me so anyways. Um, so, trump has effectively been using these tariffs in order to, to push these trade deals because, again, trump is running the United States of America, the corporation, as you would call it. He's running it like a business. So, you know, trim some fat, get some efficiency. At the same time, turn around and make trade deals, make trade deals, and he's treating us, the, the U S citizens at large. Instead of treating us as subjects and slaves, he's treating us as shareholders in that corporation. Yeah, does that make sense? Yeah, so he's trying to go out and change the bottom line, make it profitable, and he'll say really grandiose things like get rid of the IRS and pay dividends to Americans. We'll be wealthy, wealthy, wealthy.
Speaker 6:Instead of a tax credit, you're going to get a dividend.
Speaker 3:So just just so everyone understands, okay, if wealth is having positive income and poverty is having negative income any country that has a taxation system that takes from your income your bartered labor. It's one thing to tax your interest, it's one thing to tax your profits, but to tax your income at the source, okay, you have an impoverished nation. You cannot have wealth If you're living in a system where you're draining your bucket. You know what I mean Every time you get a drop in.
Speaker 6:Yeah, you're stealing from your own growth.
Speaker 3:Yes, it is. It is by definition impoverishing. How can you say I'm wealthy, I might have access to great roads and great schools, but I'm a slave to it, I'm negative, I'm owing, I'm constantly in debt.
Speaker 6:Right, some people would call that land rich. Land rich yeah.
Speaker 3:Okay, so that's the thing. You can't have a truly wealthy nation when you have an internal revenue system. Okay, it's one thing to tax transactions. It's another thing to tax income. That's you, that's your luge, your energy, your life force, your barter with your labor and your time. To tax that income source as opposed to your value added goods that are transported or sold. That's different. Point of sale transactions are different than income taxes.
Speaker 3:Income taxes means as long as you're productive, you owe me, and when you become unproductive, you're no longer an asset to the state, which then makes you a liability, which then, oh my gosh, get away from me with that shot. The internal logic of what they're doing here, like you, can't have a wealthy nation that values individual life when, the moment you become unproductive, you a liability. Well, what's the logic of a business is to trim the fat. Okay, doge will eventually come for you. Be careful to cheer it on too much because when it gets turned on the actual assets and liabilities of this country, okay, the people who actually have tied their, their louche and their livelihood and their energy to the credit system, aka, aka, the good faith and credit of the United States is what backs the dollar.
Speaker 3:I might want you to have a little better fiscal policy, please, if I'm the one that has to pay the bill because we're a debtor nation. We can't really be wealthy as long as we're in debt. Oh, time for the show to get started here. Ok, all right, so well, yeah, so you got to start. Truly be wealthy as long as we're in debt.
Speaker 6:Time for the show to get started here. Okay, all right, so well, yeah, so you got to start thinking like a shareholder.
Speaker 3:You got to start thinking like a share, and that's a poor analogy, but at least it fits in the regard that trump's trying to go out and use things like tariffs as a tool.
Speaker 6:Right, like one ceo would say well, I don't have to do business with you, you know right, but if you think of yourself as a shareholder, all the sudden tariffs become a different thing and here's the thing we're also talking.
Speaker 3:Nation states we're not talking for corporations that are subject to like monopoly laws, like we want to have the monopoly.
Speaker 4:It's our company, you know what I mean, if that's the case, so again.
Speaker 3:uh, scott adams has been saying recently like if you have to use an analogy, I'm like I have to use analogies all the time. I'm like, yeah, they're not always perfect. Ok, so Trump had a little pause. He's been, he was playing really hard with China and there's a lot of questions we've. I mean, we talk about China all the time but we haven't really done the whole here's videos out of China stuff. I felt like I got really fooled with the whole COVID thing and so I haven't really trusted too many videos out of China. You know what I mean, because I don't speak Chinese for all I know. It's like a movie set Like you know, oh my gosh, look at this crazy thing that's happening in China. They could be like where's Superman? Superman needs to come save us.
Speaker 6:And I'd have no idea. I'd be showing it to you like look at this riot.
Speaker 3:You know, I have no idea, so we don't really play around too much Right.
Speaker 6:I mean they could like weld all the doors shut on a building and then you know demolition it. And then you'd be like what? The hell Right, oh, like I can.
Speaker 3:I have no idea. Idea, you know. So that's the thing. Like we really don't know what's going on there, right? I just like there's not a lot of transparency. They have their little 10 cent army where they've got. They literally have hundreds of thousands of people that are employed by the state to just troll online. Yeah, I mean like it's. It's that it's incomprehensible to us as americans how they spend their money. It's as incomprehensible as when we hear about the things that usaid spends money on, or you know, these different golden toilets that the government buys, or you know, there's just the ridiculous stuff that you're like how is this? What are you thinking? Well, when it's not your money to spend and you've got just this surplus of money, right like eighty thousand dollar hammers next thing you know, you're paying men to stare at goats and you're paying for.
Speaker 6:You know what I mean.
Speaker 3:Like the whole thing just gets to be kind of stupid. Yeah, like I understand Manhattan projects, I understand the Hoover dam, I understand the interstate projects, like I get it, oh, and there's a little graft on the side, and my cousin Louie got the concrete job, I go okay. But the highway, right, we got the interstate. Yes, all right, at least there's something there. Yeah, but when you're paying men to stare at goats no value, I think you're taking too much. I don't know man, I mean at least louis lives in the community. You know what I mean? These men who stare at goats like they live on college campuses and stuff, like they don't even garden. There's no value to these human beings at a certain point.
Speaker 3:So so we can't, we can't comprehend sometimes in a country like china that is set up as a communist country, where basically they own all the property, all your revenue, everything. It's just this con. You're just just go to work and, um, we're just gonna take your goods and labor and do what we want with them. So the communist party, the surplus of wealth that they have, is incredible. I mean, it's stunning. Right, the richest people in the world are these Chinese families that are running the communist party. They don't reinvest really well, but at the same time, I mean they do, but yet we hear about these ghost towns. Yeah, that's what.
Speaker 6:I was thinking about, but yet we hear about these ghost towns. Yeah, right, that's what I was thinking about.
Speaker 3:Yeah, you got these ghost towns. Well, what's what's that all about? Like, what's that all about they? Got that's a plan and people were planning for future growth is it, or is it just, I don't know just a way to stock away cash because, right, the money's in like the cash flow of you? Know what I'm saying?
Speaker 6:yeah, I do so. Like you know, just like in new york, there's all these high rises with billion dollar condos that sit empty. You know somebody's parking money somewhere it's land banking.
Speaker 3:Basically, yeah, location, location, location, yeah, so the the problem is oh, man, and it's probably.
Speaker 6:You know it's a different scale and they're not the same kind of product. But you know, when they build a big apartment building and nobody lives in it, you know that's just an asset that somebody is trying to park money in.
Speaker 3:I've got this video that I was going to play, that that has this lady and she's talking about going out and a house is worth a million dollars and they make a $3 million offer and then they have like three houses in the neighborhood. They're doing this too simultaneously, so they, they do a, they, they, they have it. As you know, it's worth a million.
Speaker 3:So they pay a million to the seller. They take another million down payment, but it's they. They put the money down and then it comes back to them. They call it splash back, create their own comp so they can take million dollar neighborhood, turn it into a $3 million neighborhood, do the refinances, pull out the million dollars, like basically they can like double values of and she was explaining how they were just doing this and doing this and doing this. Now, the only reason I'm not playing it is because I can't decide if she's admitting to the fraud or if she's describing a real estate strategy to promote for people, like because the videos I don't have the beginning and the very end and I can't source the interview. But she's perfect and they're talking about it like they. They are doing this and that's what the headline says, but I'm like I can't. I can't tell if they're like got out of prison and they're explaining why they went to prison I was actually thinking about writing a book about this topic.
Speaker 6:What's that? Uh pumping the? Uh the real estate markets?
Speaker 3:so, oh, I've seen it done like a yeah so I've watched people do mortgage right.
Speaker 6:But what I was, what I'm talking about and what my book would be about would be about the government pumping it, and that's what's happening. So, like our, your local county assessor will say wow, we, you know, we uh evaluate and assess your, your property based on um you index, and they'll always claim that it's like 80% of the index or something. So we're always under the curve. But the problem is that when you have a limited supply of zoning land, then all of a sudden that zoned land becomes worth more because there's a scarcity of it. And then what happens if you don't properly zone or have enough land provided with adequate zoning for the growth that you're anticipating? Well, all of a sudden the value of those properties become falsely inflated, and and then that drives the market. That all by itself drives the market. They are driving the market.
Speaker 3:Yeah, there's a lot of manipulation. So, anyways, we don't know what's going on in China. We just I don't know that we have great transparency. I don't really trust any videos I see out of China at all. So this is interesting that Trump says this. So two weeks ago, china was in grave economic danger. The very high tariffs I set made it virtually impossible for china to trade into the united states marketplace, which is by far number one in the world. We went, in effect, cold turkey with china and it was devastating for them. So this is when trump basically we had tariffs so high, it was kind of like just a band-aid rip and it and it. It caught everyone very off guard. Admittedly, right, he was looking around going uh, did he just put us?
Speaker 6:out of business. Well, yeah, nobody expected trump to win, you know right. So they weren't anticipating, you know, tariffs and doing that, to go that extreme right one thing 10, you know okay and it's another thing for trump to rattle about tariffs but then to actually do them implement them.
Speaker 3:Yeah, okay, so we went cold. Turkey it's devastating. Many factory closing. There was, to put it mildly, civil unrest. So this is the, this is the thing that we couldn't confirm. Yeah, like, okay, we've got civil unrest. What's the cause? What's the reason? Like I don't know. Some people are saying it's just factories closing, the order tariffs are working, and I'm sure that we can find I feel like there's always civil unrest and factories closing like isn't that just kind of like? I mean, if factories are closing.
Speaker 3:There's unrest somewhere crackdown all the time, like I mean I don't understand. Again I don't understand. We have civil unrest here.
Speaker 6:I mean, look, right and I guess this is what you're talking about without showing videos. You know, you know, I'm sure that we could find 100 videos of unrest in china, but how do you verify what any of them really? I can't even understand what they're saying right, we don't know what they mean yeah and there's no, there's not so there's no point to show a bunch of people captioning because I, we could put captioning on there.
Speaker 3:Well I don't trust the captioning coming out of china because it's like well, at least you know with america. I'm look at your pictures, kind of figure out your account. What kind of stuff are you posting? Ok, is it? Is it credible stuff? Are you on the fringe? You know you just start that you just can kind of figure out these Chinese accounts.
Speaker 3:It's like viral video, viral video, viral video, viral video and like yeah you know, and the thing is is when you've done this long enough, you see something come back like I'm constantly putting on videos like this is not a ci from j6, this is jared. You know, stop sharing this video. Like, because when it's one of our influencers sharing some video and it's like that's an incorrect assessment of what that video shows and I know I know for a fact, that's the kind of thing where you're like oh, I want to constantly be careful about seeing what I'm seeing, right, right, because, again, we only are as good as information we have in every video I've show. You get to have your own choice, especially when we show some of these action videos of like you know, what do you see here? Like what's happening here with this Antifa thing or what's. You know what I mean? It's like like I don't know. But I do know one thing you push the gate.
Speaker 3:Okay, we went, in effect, cold turkey with china. It was devastating for them. Many factories closed and there was, to put it mildly, civil unrest. I saw what was happening and didn't like it for them and not for us. I made a fast deal with china in order to save them from what I thought was going to be a very bad situation. You mean the overthrow of the Communist Party? What? Hold on, I think that's bueno, it's bueno, and I didn't want to see that happen. Oh what? Because of this deal, everything quickly stabilized in China and got back to business as usual. Was it maybe always business as usual? Did you just blow through a whole psyop? Maybe that was happening, I don't know. I mean, there is a faction of americans, far right wing hawks, that are, uh, pacific oriented, that you know are. Are the kind of folks that like. There's a certain category of people that just are like bomb iran, bomb iran, bomb iran. The john bolton's of the east right john, bomb iran. And then you. You have some people on the right that are like you know nuke china nuke china
Speaker 3:no matter, you know they're gonna invade taiwan tomorrow, nuke china like fair. You know what I mean, and that very well may be the case. You know, there were people in the 1940s that were like, hey, you know, like this japan thing, and you know we should probably really pay attention to their expansion, and then they cut off their oil, like steve bannon's asking did the cutting off the nvidia chips? Was that like cutting off the oil? You know, like, let's be real about it, okay. So, uh, at this time I'm like isn't that the goal? To take down the chinese Communist Party? Because of this deal, everything happened Stabilization, china got back to business as usual. Okay, everybody was happy. That was good news. The bad news is China perhaps not surprisingly to some has totally violated its agreement. So, no, so, so so much for being Mr Nice Guy.
Speaker 3:So, one thing we are definitely learning with Trump's tweets, ones like this. These are statements like he said, this crafted it Right. There's a lot of his little like meme tweets and stuff like that that are like I don't, I don't know what the take of those. I don't think those are serious. I think that's just him doing a little bit of trolling, you know, like that kind of thing. But this right here is a policy statement. This is establishing the direction he wants the cabinet secretaries to go and Scott Besson to go, and I imagine I imagine today, after we're done broadcasting, we're going to hear some interesting information on the China trade front. That'll be, fun.
Speaker 3:So on this deal with Biden and the auto pin and Biden, in this cognitive situation I am Jeez. It is kind of an OG thing.
Speaker 6:but it feels like it's going to get ping ponged around a little bit more.
Speaker 3:I think so, but I think Ed Martin has been saying a lot about you know. We have to shame these people. And that used to be a theme of our of the show before, was put this put their shame in their faces, right Like you've got to just put it right up to them exactly what they're doing, and that means you have to be completely aware of players involved. You know what I mean. Like to do that you have to be pretty confident in what you're doing.
Speaker 6:I think we were taking that tack because we wanted the arena to. We wanted everybody in the arena of thought and discussion to just be honest about everything that we're talking about.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yes, and I want I want intelligent people to point out blind sides or you know, different ways to consider things. I, I a long time ago realized and I think this is one of the scary things, honestly I a long time ago realized we were not arguing about tax rates anymore. We were not arguing about the merits of one interstate system versus another type of you know, should we do high speed rail or should we get better airport terminals?
Speaker 6:Right, so we do nuclear energy.
Speaker 3:Should we do nuclear energy or should we just burn up West Virginia? Yeah, Like, okay, these are. These are debates that we have amongst civilized people living in a community trying to figure out how my community and your community and your city and our city, and how we can all interact with peace and harmony and agreements. And what about the water of the colorado river? That is very concerning we're gonna have to talk about that and form some committees.
Speaker 3:Let's go right right, we were, we were way beyond that and we were, we were running from needles. We're like stop, I don't want to be jabbed what's in that thing. You know what I mean. Like I can't tell you it's proprietary, what the hell. I don't want it. Well then, you're gonna lose your job. Hold on a second. What are we doing, you know? And, by the way, put on this mask. You know it's like what?
Speaker 6:huh like there may be a thing called nanobots, maybe a thing called nanotech.
Speaker 3:Yeah exactly, hold on, you won't tell me what's in. It inserts blank. You know this stuff was happening. It happened Like it happened. People got laid off, people died Suddenly it got weird for a minute.
Speaker 3:It was like, uh and and you know there's some me a Koopas RFK is doing full on war against MMR, but we were playing from behind here, let's be honest Like we blocked the winning field goal and now we're playing back on our own five. Be honest, like we blocked the winning field goal and now we're playing back on our own five yard line and playing back the field. Okay, let's just be really frank about the situation. Like it's an uphill climb, to quote unquote. Take our country back to where we can fall asleep again. Okay, so I want to put this out here, and the more, the more this kind of continues and the more you really dig into this, you start to realize how damaging this Biden regime was.
Speaker 6:Oh man.
Speaker 3:We could argue for days about 2020, but it's not like it was an election between Nixon and Johnson, who both ended up being president and both kind of were dude, dorky or what you know what I mean. Like it's not like the cheat was for one of two people. That would, overall, be okay. You're talking about a donald trump caricature persona, which is something completely different.
Speaker 3:Love it or hate it, right, I love it but, well then, you've got the biden thing, and it was like this wasn't about tax policy no, this was an inflection point, for this was an inflection point.
Speaker 3:And, and on top of that, when you really dig down into what he did, what his administration was doing, it's what trump said in a recent tweet. He's like biden never talked about open borders. He never talked about these things. Why did he lead that way? Right, like asking that question. So when we when we talked to this is barry weiss, who was a former new york times editor who got run out because she she had one singular criticism of israel or I can't remember what it was right, and she got run out and says, no, that was her big come out moment, like, oh, yeah, the left has gone to left. Yeah, it's not like you've adjusted your view too much. You know she had an interview with Joe Rogan where she talked about getting fired from the New York times and it was like, oh, you know what a wake up. Well, I haven't seen her wake up past that. She's sitting here with Jake Tapper and the Axios reporter who were reporting on Joe. You know that wrote this book, the that's now number one bestseller.
Speaker 8:By the way.
Speaker 3:Jake Tapper's show has lost like 37 percent of its ratings since the release of the book, which is running number one. So people are buying the book and then they're not watching his show.
Speaker 6:You know, I think we heard that there were NGOs that went out and bought people's books just to pump them. You know, wonder how that's the everything's fake. Yeah, everything's fake.
Speaker 3:This book is being pumped up for no good reason and it's, it's the cover up, it's the art of the cover up here. So, listen, listen, listen to this.
Speaker 10:That was, I don't want to say necessarily smeared You'll be the judge of whether or not you were smeared but roundly criticized by your colleagues for going for being curious about the wrong things.
Speaker 4:how difficult was it do you think for people to go against being curious about?
Speaker 10:the wrong things you know I think your diagnosis of sort of what was happening is much more as much more on target than a lot of what sort of I guess you like right wing or independent, other independent conservative media, which is that you know they believe that it's all liberal media and there's like much more of an ideological mission you know like United Conspiracy and I do think in some cases some reporters left their ideological leanings like affect their reporting. I do agree that uh sort of I think the group think that sets in among washington and the self-reinforcing and the and the intimidation by the white house and by feeling like um, you're ostracized not just by how do you say can you?
Speaker 3:even say the conspiracy amongst a group of people without saying there's a conspiracy among the group of people. Everything in your life reinforces this one single group. Think everything. It's like you can't get away from it, you can't stand up to it. It's wild. Yeah, the right is saying there's like a conspiracy, you guys are in a cult, you're in a cult. How do you say you're in a cult? How do you say you're in a cult without saying it? He just did think of this. There's not just by like, how do you say you're in a cult without saying it? You just described a cult.
Speaker 10:Bro, the democrat in washington dc is a freaking cult sources and potentially losing access, but also by, like your peers and colleagues who are like giving you side eye. I do think is that's a cult, that's a cult.
Speaker 3:You're in a cult. You can't say the emperor has no clothes, because you're in a freaking cult and you worship invisible thread uh, I mean, listen, I, I it was.
Speaker 10:I mean it made me doubt myself. I mean, I wasn't, that's the upper end of clothes.
Speaker 3:You could see the guy stumbling around the right wing's like the guy's an idiot. You're like your cult members are like oh, holy Biden.
Speaker 8:So sharp and fast as he reads his notes.
Speaker 3:And you're like I feel like he's got something wrong with his brain, and you know what I mean. You're in a cult, bro you. This is crazy. I started to question myself. Yeah, they were asking you not to believe your lying eyes right in front of you.
Speaker 10:Bike sources were telling me that he was struggling, so I, how did it?
Speaker 13:make? Tell me more about that. How did it make you doubt yourself?
Speaker 10:Well, because I mean, if you're on a limb.
Speaker 6:you're like, wow, it's your therapist now.
Speaker 10:I mean, that's what I love, hold on.
Speaker 3:You're out on a limb and no one else follows. How did it make you tell you You're out on a limb? Looking at the guy with dementia going I think he's got dementia be running the country how does that make you feel? Well, no one would follow me out on the limb. Dude, half the country's out on that limb. Did you not see january 6th?
Speaker 10:you're not alone it wasn't just me. Like new york times, I started booking you that's true, I mean jake started booking me on cnn and telling cnn that cnn should hire me and have me on more, because he was fearless he was fearless, he was fearless.
Speaker 3:Oh, did he go to prison for his political opinion of speaking truth to power?
Speaker 6:So brave.
Speaker 3:As Mark Victor Hansen says. No, jake Tappy, you're speaking truth to impotence now. So brave, he's so brave, he was like Colin Strikes.
Speaker 10:What? What he was like. Colin strikes, what, what? Who's so brave? He's so brave. You know, peter baker did some like um and uh and a few others there's olin comes to mind, I'm sure I'm missing names like did build upon it. But yeah, I mean like I was, like you know, on on a limb and like you, of course, like, I think, any journalist, you're like, you want it, you you're, you're checking yourself um. So yeah, I mean, sometimes it was like um, sometimes it was a bit lonely, but I think it was also just like I pulled it, I believed my sources and so it was like so brave so brave and I like how to believe my sources, like it's just really important, you know, uh, they talk different.
Speaker 3:Yeah, for real but he's very brave to have reported about the guy that's literally couldn't like he was shaking hands with the ghosts. You know this, this man, these people, they're like you were so brave. This is the New York Times. This is the New York Times that said Trump peed on hookers on a bed in Moscow where Obama allegedly stayed because he wanted to shame Obama. The New York Times got a Pulitzer Prize for that.
Speaker 6:We got to start booking this.
Speaker 3:That man was the president of the United States. Can we get this guy on? And now you're sitting here going. We, we couldn't report that biden had like a mental deficiency and he like he was shaking hands with the ghosts and they had to like give him his sheets with our names on it. He still couldn't remember our names. You know.
Speaker 3:He called zelinski, putin, like twice you know, what I mean it's like he couldn't remember god. You know one, one nation under you know, you know, you know the thing, the thing. And they're over here like, yeah, man, that's truth of power. You're in a cult. You're in a cult and here's the thing. This cult is directionless because it's being run by guys like this. This is who the Democrat and the liberal wing and all that, this lawfare agenda, these are the people. This man was part of the group of people that crafted the charges against me to use and manipulate these charges. He's one of these lawyer, little weasel rat thinkers.
Speaker 6:I think we could get him on this.
Speaker 3:Listen to this, normize him now at career.
Speaker 12:We have 152 open legal matters against the trump administration since january 20th. We filed the first one at 1201 pm and we want to file the very first lawsuit. I had somebody listening, listening on their iPhone to the swearing in and standing at the GSA to drop a complaint on them about the Trump Hotel. So you know, just compelled by circumstances, and when Trump is Trump is ejected, as I believe he will be, then I'll help stitch up some of the damage and I'll go back to book writing. There you go all right meredith.
Speaker 6:So uh, norm paints a pretty bleak picture about the current state of things. You're a veteran of the reform field, having worked at common cause, the campaign legal center, now at issue one. So, uh, how does, how does the reform community respond to this moment?
Speaker 3:now, if you go study the russian revolution where the bolsheviks took power, ultimately, that whole period of time from the initial uh czar who stepped down and gave it to his brother instead of his son, and the whole, that whole period of time is like what? 15, 20 years, something like that I don't know okay before the bolsheviks officially took over and Lenin I don't know anything about all that Well of course you don't.
Speaker 3:Of course you don't, because the people who are writing history are the successors of that. Okay, this Norm Eisen guy, when she says the reform movement they used to call themselves, you know, the revolutionaries. It was less offensive to say that, like the socialists, when it was less offensive to say that before they'd slaughtered millions of people. So this reform movement, these are revolutionaries. These are people who want to take and change your government. They're revolutionaries. This is the international. We're Marx and Engels and Lenin. We're writing letters back and forth and indoctrinating each other. I'm going to go back to writing books. Yeah, you, karl Marx. I mean, these are the guys who know Karl Marx inside and out and the social thing. And you have to use economics to change the. Have a social revolution along with a political revolution. This is the reform group. I'm your. This is living history. This guy.
Speaker 3:We wanted to be the first one to file a lawsuit. Why? Cause the czar must die. We're going after executive power. We don't want to be able to have one man. Stop us. We love the sausage making in the house of representatives. I mean, the fundraising is awesome and you can just kind of ping pong back and forth and hegelian dialectic to the point to where they're chasing you around with needles yeah, radiating into death. Normize them. I mean just to hear that we wanted to be the first ones. So all the gumming up when they're like there's a judicial coup, it's because the, the judges, are that was frivolous lawsuit. That was a frivolous lawsuit. We wanted to file a trump.
Speaker 3:Where were you on the? I want to file a hunter biden complaint. I'd like to file a little little complaint about some of the stuff on that laptop. Where were you then? Where were you the four years ago? Where's your allegiance norm? Because you're just anti-Trump for the sake of anti-Trump and your whole ilk and cohort. I know who I fight for. I fight for myself and my family and everything that stitches that together, which includes my city, my community, my neighborhood. You know I don't fight for my race. That's stupid, cause it doesn't affect me. You fight for policies. Fight for stupid because it doesn't affect me. You fight for policies, fight for policies. You know I fight for the populace of the people around me, you know, and when you insert a lot of new people and you know, I'm a cosmopolitan, I've lived in japan, I've lived in brazil.
Speaker 3:Like I understand that. You know, go and I get it, that's fine, just fill out the piece of paper, let them know. You're there. Back, quick background check. They have a right to that. Since you know, go and I get it, that's fine, just fill out the piece of paper, let them know. You're there. Back, quick background check. They have a right to that, since you know they've conquered their land. It's their country, it's their country, you know. Fair enough, right?
Speaker 3:I'm all about obfuscation from government when you're a native, but you're the visitor, it's a little different. All right, now, keep in mind this biden regime, the damage it did. This is, this is kind of another one of these auto pin scandals, and you have to understand the depth oh my goodness, you have to understand the depth of of this kind of corruption. You have to understand the depth of the corruption, to understand that it's not just like, oh, they weaponize the DOJ or the FBI, like that might be one of the latter things to have been weaponized. You know, we know a guy who used to be the secretary of agriculture named Ezra Taft Benson. You know that guy? Yeah, I didn't know to be the secretary of agriculture, named Ezra Taft Benson. You know that guy.
Speaker 6:Yeah, I heard of him a few times. I didn't know he was a secretary of agriculture.
Speaker 3:He was a secretary of agriculture, wow, and he was always talking about secret societies. Right, he was. I mean, he was like the.
Speaker 6:That was a period of my life where I wasn't listening as much.
Speaker 3:Well, it was before you were born, when he was the secretary of agriculture, but you know he was. He was like he was talking about the Department of Agriculture been taken over by communists, oh, and they needed to root out the communists in the Department of Agriculture. If I've got the department wrong, I apologize. It could have been the secretary of interior, but either way, it was one of these you know, kind of obscure cabinet positions that's incredibly important because it deals with cattle Right cabinet positions that's incredibly important because it deals with cattle right. So, anyways, uh, and he was talking about how just corrupt it was and it was something you would never think of. Well, this is again this biden regime and this auto pen. What did this auto pen sign? What memos, what? What was put out there for policy directive on how to follow their rules?
Speaker 13:that this auto pin touched Washington DC. He was leaving behind a DEI secret involving American farmers and $800 million in taxpayer money, and the United States Department of Agriculture whistleblower is now sounding the alarm.
Speaker 5:It was to pay off anyone who wasn't a white male flown. It was to pay off anyone who wasn't a white male's loan. That was the only qualification for this loan forgiveness. And what was the reaction? So it was really silent. They were trying to keep this hushed because of the obvious implications of race-based loan forgiveness.
Speaker 13:Race-based loan forgiveness. It's in black and white buried in the American Rescue Plan Act. The United States Secretary of Agriculture shall provide a payment in an amount up to 120% of the outstanding indebtedness of each socially disadvantaged farmer or rancher. The act explicitly lays out who's considered socially disadvantaged rancher. The act explicitly lays out who's considered socially disadvantaged. So just to be clear, if you were American, indian, alaskan native Asian, black, african American, native Hawaiian, pacific Islander, hispanic or Latino and you were in that group, you were told you didn't have to pay your bills.
Speaker 5:essentially, yes, that's correct, and that your loan would be forgiven up to 120 percent of the loan value.
Speaker 11:To me, it was just. It was combating racism with more racism. I didn't, I couldn't believe that it was happening in today's age.
Speaker 13:James Dunlap owns a small family farm in Baker City, oregon. He works two other jobs to keep his farm afloat but did not qualify for the loan forgiveness because he's white.
Speaker 11:I knew what they were saying was that minority farmers were going to have their loans forgiven for no reason other than they decided to, they being the government.
Speaker 13:And how much money they had. Had nothing to do with it as far as I understand, not at all.
Speaker 11:It wasn't about hardship, it wasn't about financial situations at all. It was purely what box you checked under that ethnicity line on your application.
Speaker 13:If you checked a non-white box you got the free money, no matter how rich you were. James and other white farmers sued the Biden administration and were successful. The loan forgiveness for any farmer who's not white was stopped, the judge writing in his decision. It was an actual constitutional harm that cannot be undone and James and other white farmers will suffer the harm of being excluded from eligibility for that debt relief program solely on the basis of his race. That harm he has shown is irreparable. But this is where things get interesting.
Speaker 13:The Biden administration was not ready to give up. They passed the Inflation Reduction Act to help farmers who couldn't pay their loans. It was supposed to help all farmers, but NewsNation has learned all farmers were not told about it, newsnation obtaining a copy of this email that was sent out to share information about new payments and or loan modifications that may assist you. But here's the catch. Our whistleblower says it was only sent to the minority farmers, aka the socially disadvantaged group, and he says USDA workers were even instructed to tell that group to stop paying their loans because they would still be forgiven. The whistleblower says none of the white farmers he works with received the email.
Speaker 5:They got nothing you know it might not meet the legal definition of fraud, but it isn't right. It was discriminating, discriminatory, it was unethical and the people who pushed it are still in charge of the agency. They're still in charge, yes, at our national office. They're're still. Trump hasn't got rid of them.
Speaker 6:Huh.
Speaker 3:You know, just deep down there in the USDA we're just paying off black farmers and it's not South Africa.
Speaker 6:Maybe this is why my grant application got denied. Yeah, from the USDA. You picked the wrong box, bro, I guess. So I mean you picked the wrong box. I thought it. I mean the wrong box. I thought it was accurate, but I guess it was wrong so that's why the auto pin scandal.
Speaker 3:You know there's a lot of focus on the pardons, because that's, I think, where it became really obvious. Last second, literally, like you know, hours before, minutes before trump is to be sworn in, there's pardons being put on and they're being signed by the auto pin, like is biden even doing that or is he on his way to andrew's air force base to fly off, like what's happening here? You know, like some of those pardons I think were posted when people were saying biden should have been like in the rotundra yeah, he wasn't even there.
Speaker 6:Yeah, it's just some. You know, it sounds to me like some somebody else used the pen and maybe collected some cash for using the pen.
Speaker 3:The thing is is if jill biden and ron clain and these other people are allegedly running the show like hey man, yeah, 500 grand I'll get you, pardon I got you back. You know, when I do do my CBS interview in six months, I'll mention it. Like I was there, did it you know, like they're just. They honestly just rely on us not caring or being able to do anything about it, or and just moving on.
Speaker 6:Yeah, I mean story after story. Yep.
Speaker 3:So this has been all over this and again. The context that we hear about it on the news is constantly in relation to the pardons, but it goes a lot deeper. What if we find out that an auto pen is what had them only send out notification to minority farmers? What if? It? What if it was the auto pen that created that payoff scenario? You know what I mean? Like yeah, and this is irreparable constitutional damage. Like this is not a fair playing field. The constitution guarantees at minimum a fair playing field, you know.
Speaker 3:It doesn't guarantee you win, it doesn't guarantee you lose, it just guarantees a fair playing field equality of opportunity and when the government comes in and and puts their hand on the scale like that, like oh, by the way, in debt enslavement and then just forgives minorities debts, I mean this is like this is why dei policies are all bullshit of the modern day emancipation proclamation right.
Speaker 6:This is why dei policies are all bullshit they're completely bull baloney, yeah, yeah I would say apply to this.
Speaker 9:You know they can. Someone brought up forgery. Forgery is the beginning of a conversation, I think. Fraud, um, you know there's all kinds of aspects of fraud that could be done if somebody is making money, big money, off of it. You know there's there's many things that President Trump used in a Truth Social post about treason and I think I'm as a member of DOJ, I'm going to tread carefully towards what I would describe as the likely crime. But but there's a lot. If this was an abuse, like people are worried, there's a lot of crimes that were committed.
Speaker 10:And there will be.
Speaker 9:if the facts show that it was happening, the DOJ will pursue aggressively justice. The only way I know to do it is to be aggressive. You probably have seen this now. So, yes, I mean, we're going to get to the bottom of the facts, we're going to apply it to the law and we're going to go like hell against the people that did this to the country. And you know, this is the biggest scandal I could ever imagine in our lives. There's never been anything like this at this point, and so I hope it's the less. I hope it's a lesser scandal than it looks like, but it's headed towards one of the most, uh, egregious things we've ever seen.
Speaker 3:so, yes, people will be held accountable and yes, they will be held accountable by prosecutions what if you had the people controlling the auto pin taking payoffs, not just for a pardon, you know, but what if? For these policies in general? What's?
Speaker 6:for sale.
Speaker 3:After all. This was, uh, scott jennings on cnn and you know, again, the clips are great. I don't want, I don't. I haven't watched cnn since I got out of prison, so you know, I don't know, but he was pretty great on back then because every time he's on he just seems to kind of own the panel and I don't particularly view scott jennings as like maga, by the way, like he's very much in the mcconnell mccarthy like like not really embracing populism kind of way. Okay, so I'm not like an endorser of scott jennings. He's great on cnn, but he's to me he's like a tim scott republican, like he's he's mega adjacent, you know. So he's just one of those people like yeah, um, but he, he does a really good job of explaining this.
Speaker 4:So again, the difference between trump and biden I agree it's being done out in the open, it's being done in the light of day, we're not doing it at the 11th hour here or as we're on our way up to the capitol to the next president being sworn in. And, I might add, I don't think there's any doubt who's actually signing these pardons. You know, at the end of Biden's term we had thousands of people that were pardoned or offered some kind of clemency for drug offenses. I have my doubts about whether Joe Biden signed all of those, and there's obviously, because of the new books that are out, clear reporting here that there was something of a politburo running the White House at the end of the Biden administration when many of the most controversial pardons were issued. So in this case, donald Trump, I think, is fully owning all of these decisions. I agree it's being done out in the open. It's being done in the light of day.
Speaker 3:Biden was always operating. I mean, we didn't hear him, didn't hear from him, hardly at all.
Speaker 6:He never, was always operating. I mean, we didn't hear him, didn't hear from him, hardly at all. Yeah, he never even campaigned.
Speaker 3:Yeah, exactly, okay. So we also talked um about this situation with the gretchen whitmer kidnapping hoax. So I want to hear this this is Barry Croft. He is the. He was the ring leader, right, he's got the big sentence and this was this is when he was in jail and he was right about to get sent off to super max, where he's at now. And this is his kind of plea to Donald Trump and to the world with regards to a pardon. And my guess is these guys are going to get a pardon. I think they are, because this, this whole whitmer kidnapping plot, it was cooked up by the government they said let's go out and create this situation.
Speaker 3:Let's create it. They wanted to create a narrative, to create a news cycle, and these men became the cost they. They became the you know the collateral damage. To do that, they went out they created an operation.
Speaker 3:They went out, they found these people, they brought them together, they curated them into a group got them drunk, got them high got them to say incendiary things, got them drunk, got them high, got them to say incendiary things and then slapped them with, you know, and then basically put them in a position where, all of a sudden, they're you know, they're like plotting. The whole thing starts and begins with the FBI, is what I'm saying? Like these guys would have never even likely met if it hadn't been for being brought into this operation. This is, this is even removed from us an operation where they go out and trap like child sex traffickers, where they just go online, pose as a kid and then they're fishing. Hey, you know, someone comes and bites. That's not what this was. They went out and proactively sought these people out, paid for the the whole their travel, you know, subsidized it. One of the eight, one of the ci's, was sleeping with one of these men. You know, like this is really an egregious case and of course, all of that was kept out of court.
Speaker 8:So here you go I feel honored and privileged to be able to address this esteemed committee and, in an effort to reveal truth and justice for not just myself but for all, and he's talking about is like the pardon committee that's reviewing this In.
Speaker 8:May of 2019, the FBI launched a full investigation on me. At our trials rigged so that we could not reveal the criminality of the FBI's actions in our case. They cited three reasons for the investigation. First, anonymous reporting of me illegally possessing firearms. They knew that anonymous reportings are difficult to validate and, as the highest law enforcement of the land, they should have been aware of the governor's pardon that I had received in April of 2019, rendering that claim to be bogus. Secondly, they cited my exercise of first amendment, free speech on social media, which may have been distasteful but didn't reach the threshold of criminal.
Speaker 3:So one of the things they did was him getting targeted.
Speaker 3:He had a gun charge and he'd been pardoned by the governor in 2019, but, by coming after him with an anonymous tip of illegal possession of a firearm which he now has a legal right to possess. To make sense it makes. It challenges the validity of the pardon. So it's another way to erode a constitutional authority and a power to make sense Like these by these pardons that Biden just did erodes the pardon. Like I, have concerns. Pardons are absolute, but Trump just revoked some pardons. That Biden just did erodes the pardon. Like I, have concerns. Pardons are absolute, but Trump just revoked some pardons. So what happens in four years when we have a new president but they revoke my pardon? Can that happen? You see what I'm saying.
Speaker 3:Like again they. It's almost like that's one of the reasons they targeted him a little. He was in trouble once and he got pardoned. That was all pardons or some element political, you know what I mean. And then they're like target.
Speaker 8:The most important was information they received from the Dallas field office. I hadn't been in or near Texas in 2019. This was merely retaliatory for my association with Kevin Lindell Massey, a 2014 border defender from Texas, who was discovered by federal law enforcement on December 23, 2019 with a gunshot wound to the neck which they ruled a suicide. They monitored my every move for eight months and I hadn't committed any crime. This included warrants for every form of communication. I took part in use of 24-hour physical surveillance teams and social media informants who had never met me, all to no avail. I hadn't committed any crime, but the FBI was determined to obtain a prosecution against me. Their answer was to send CHSs, or confidential human sources, at me in January of 2020. The term CHS is very misleading. It implies that they are using informants. In Black's Law Dictionary, informant is defined as one who confidentially supplies information to the police about a crime. But what happens when law enforcement knows that there is no crime? The CHS is paid and used as an agent provocateur. The definition of agent provocateur in Merriam-Webster's dictionary is a person hired to infiltrate a group and incite its members to illegal action.
Speaker 8:The court sealed the discovery information in our case in order to cover up for the FBI. If you investigate this case, I swear before the almighty God you'll find these words to be true. Almighty God, you'll find these words to be true. I apologize and have paid for my intoxicated ramblings that were recorded, but I did not conspire to commit any crime.
Speaker 8:In 1932, supreme Court Justice Roberts stated in his opinion courts must be closed to the trial of a crime instigated by the government's own agents. He also stated that preservation of the purity of its own temple belongs only to the court. But what happens when the court shields its eyes from the truth and, through its rulings, obscures the facts? I want to offer my sincerest gratitude for your obvious pursuit of the righteous truth. If we cannot rely on the judicial and executive branches to serve and protect justice, that awesome responsibility falls on the legislative branch, and all Americans should be encouraged by your efforts to do that. As for myself, and judging by my experience in this case, I feel that you are my only hope for the legitimate finding of fact in this matter. Thank you for hearing from me. God bless and protect the United States of America.
Speaker 3:Okay, so I can't. You know incendiary speech. Some people are like, well, if he said it, then you know he should rot. Guys, I've been to prison, okay. Okay, there's nothing. Words, sticks and stones can break my bones, but words will never hurt me. You can't take a person's liberty for things they say I'm sorry, right, you can't. It's just like there's just a line. That was society. We have to draw action where that is. That's where the debate is, but actually things you said like so this is one of those instances where it's like I don't know, did he actually plot to overthrow the governor or to kidnap the governor, or was he agent provocateur into it? Because if that's the case, then we as society have to ask ourself what is it that we're paying our law enforcement to do? You know, is this an? Is this an industrial complex where, hey, that business is down, let's create some more crime so we can get our budgets up.
Speaker 3:I mean, what does it if this was run as a business? Isn't that what you do? You know what I mean.
Speaker 6:And it is a business.
Speaker 3:It is a business Like, if you're making money on the arrest, wouldn't you let the drug dealer deal and the cop, cop and you know, never go after the drug dealer, always go after the customer.
Speaker 3:Yeah, it'd also be nice for an entire country, the customer, who's also the taxpayer, which means they're your employer, which means you're putting in jail your employer. The customer, who's also the taxpayer, which means they're your employer, which means you're putting in jail your employer. You do understand the relationship. Oh yeah, right. Instead of protecting us from the drug dealer, they protect us from the drugs. You know what I mean? Henry Ford understood you have to pay your employees enough to buy your product, so you have to have employees, citizens who make enough money to pay for the product, the taxes.
Speaker 3:That's why drug dealers got to be rich Also create a need for them to have to have the police force and the military force in order to justify the paying of the taxes. So, therefore, sometimes you get the left and right hand slapping you around a little bit. Is it extortion money or protection money? What am I paying for here? Am I being extorted? Yeah, you're being extorted into paying the protection money, okay. Well, what am I paying the protection money for? To keep from being extorted, oh, okay. Oh, I got it. I got it. I got it. You pay protection money to keep from being extorted, or you get extorted to pay for some protection money to keep from being extorted, so that you pay the protection money. So what do you want to do? What do you want from me here? Ok, I want 35 percent of your income.
Speaker 9:OK, great, all right.
Speaker 3:Is that all? Yeah, oh, that's light, that's before we get to the point of sale taxes. So so, knowing the whitmer case, having lived through my own case, and now being in a situation where we're watching, like this diddy trial right, we didn't get to see an epstein trial, right, we got to see the maxwell trial, again, a little light on information, right and now we're watching this ditty trial and viva fry, who's technically an attorney out of canada but, uh, really made his bones in 2020. Uh, coming down and doing a podcast with robert barnes because we're still talking about the making kelly show and he's talking. He's been following this pd case and this has kind of been his thing now is commenting on these cases, and this was his take on the case and I I have to kind of agree with him. I have to agree with him on this case.
Speaker 7:I'm going to pause there because we're still talking about the direct and I want to get viva to weigh in and what we've heard there and then I've got more from the direct go ahead, megan, my I'm starting off this entire process with the premise that once you view this prosecution as the cover-up and this trial as the cover up, the entire trial takes on a whole different meaning. Diddy is a criminal. I mean I say this by the evidence, by what we know, by the video of him beating Cassie, and we know he's a criminal which is undisputed.
Speaker 2:He does not dispute that that was him in the video beating her.
Speaker 7:We know it. We know that this is abject degeneracy of the highest order that has spanned decades. You go back and watch, get Him to the Greek again and you see P Diddy's character in that movie and you understand it was based on reality and not comedic writing it takes on a whole new meaning. But once you look at this and say this is supposed to be a trial about criminal sex trafficking Rico, as in, there's an infrastructure, there were cameras all over P Diddy's apartment, he was running effectively a blackmail extortion ring and this entire prosecution has been reduced now to two witnesses, cassie and Jane Doe. Once you start viewing this prosecution as the cover-up and not the exposing of the criminality, it'll take on a whole new meaning.
Speaker 2:Covering up. What, though? What do you mean? Yeah, you're going to explain.
Speaker 7:There is an extortion ring that involves other people, that is not being fleshed out here and it's sort of like the movie the titanic, where you have this entire backdrop of the crisis of the titanic and it is reduced to billy zane chasing the woman I forget her name around the boat, like rose you have. Yeah, well, I figured out, kate blanchett, you have kate kate um what what wins.
Speaker 7:So you have this entire blackmail extortion ring. They went and raided Diddy's house. There were cameras there. We know that it involves, you know, the higher ups in the entertainment industry, if not the world of politics as well, and this entire prosecution is reduced to P Diddy and what we know of his abuse of Cassie and potentially Jane. And then, once you flesh out the fact that, for whatever the reasonureen, comey, james, comey's daughter, is still involved with this trial, this trial is a show trial because we're they're going to get him on something it might just be the, you know, trafficking for prostitution purposes, which seems undeniable. Send him away for 10 years, maybe he gets out after eight, and then you've successfully covered up the entire extortion ring that p did. He was running much like, much like what they did with Epstein.
Speaker 2:Oh, that's very interesting, because where are all the tapes showing these well-known celebrities allegedly at these parties? You know who knows doing who knows what. That's speculation on our part, but I have yet to hear anybody put it that way.
Speaker 3:Viva, one of the many reasons we and, by the way, Megyn Kelly's story at Fox News. You know that one.
Speaker 6:No, but before we get on to that one, I mean, I always assumed that that's what was happening the whole time, so I don't know, maybe somebody should have asked me, because I thought everybody thought this.
Speaker 3:See, that's the thing People empower the Chuck Grassley's of the world.
Speaker 6:And then she's Megyn Kelly's like oh, that's a novel idea, it's like what novel?
Speaker 3:No, that's what's happening all the freaking time. The chuck grasses of the world are like. Well, I didn't read it in anything and I haven't seen the evidence. It's like oh come on connect the dots man yeah you know, connect the dots it takes a four-year-old you know? Oh, james comey's calling for the assassination of president trump. No, he's not. He's just asking for him to be taken out like the trash, so eliminated. Yeah, okay, and your daughter's running a cover-up thing I've seen some, uh, some funny memes about that.
Speaker 6:When you know people putting stones on the sand in different shapes that spell out things that are just funny.
Speaker 3:So yeah, it's like, it's obvious, it's like a cover-up, but it's like when? When do we finally get to the real criminal? This, this is again the example of you know it. It's good, the money is made on the arrest. So have a drug dealer and have a cop and you make your money on the arrest and, oh my gosh, the, the one guy that got arrested. He's fang turned in.
Speaker 3:Diddy, you know the guy that went down and shot up, uh, uh, the club, the trump's dural club, yeah, and then gets arrested, like I was a sex slave for pddy. Yeah, like, oh, hey, the drug, the guy using the drugs, that normally is the point of sale transaction here, right, gave up the drug dealer. So let's go get the drug dealer. Oh, it's Diddy, oh my gosh. Oh, yeah, well, let's give him up. Oh, let's make him look like he's just a, you know, a domestic abuser. And, you know, took two people across state lines. Like, come on, give me a break, right, but that's enough. That's enough. That's enough to put them away for 10 years, which will keep it quiet. No one cares.
Speaker 3:Yeah, crazy, crazy, crazy. The system requires transparency. I mean, it's the government, the public should be completely transparent. You should only have privacy in your private life and you should and it should be absolute to a certain degree. Like you know what I mean, like I should be able to log on at any point onto some of these government websites and I should be able to just see everybody's calendar and everybody's agenda, everybody's pharo registrations, and you know what I mean. Like, and I should be able to figure out what their device id is so I can track that who they're meeting with. Like we should be able to just out what their device ID is so I can track who they're meeting with. We should be able to just have complete transparency into the government and they should have no transparency into us. But instead it's the other way around. They've got the portals that can log into your device ID account and see everything you're doing GPS track your ass.
Speaker 3:But yet we can't even get a FOIA thing for anything. We can't even find out if there's UFOs or not. We can clearly see them in the sky, yeah, maybe maybe allegedly don't trust the internet.
Speaker 3:Keep looking up. Keep your chin up, son, okay. So then let's wrap up on this. I want to wrap up on a high note and I think this is a high note. This is jd vance and I have become really impressed with JD Vance. I hope it stays that way. I've learned not to meet my heroes. Don't trust your heroes.
Speaker 3:Hillbilly Elegy and I really like the book Hillbilly Elegy because you can tell if where JD comes from he's. He understands family and he understands, like, the challenge of the situation, like growing up in a broken home with a mother that struggled with addiction and a very strong, willed grandmother that kind of was a matriarch of the family and held it together, learning the lessons of honor and defending your family. He has got eight or nine stepbrothers, some half-siblings. His family comes from the deep hollow of Kentucky, moved to Ohio, to the suburbs, to work in a factory. The factory goes away, the town's devastated and now you've got this displaced hill folk, red hillbillies that have moved to the suburbs, that are now displaced, within one generation of having a job. There's no jobs and they're like living far away from grandma and grandpa, far away from their communities that they're used to. They're considered ostracized because they're the uneducated part of ohio right and and so it's like he understands the the difficulty of this situation. There's people that are listening to this right now that aspire for something different in life, but the difficulty of the situation holds you back right, it's real.
Speaker 3:So he understands that overcame that got out of that cycle, joined the military, joined the marines, ended up going to call to to university of ohio or ohio state, whatever ohio state and then even and then was encouraged to just just try to apply for yale. They're always looking for diversity. He got into yale right, got I mean, clearly he's got. They thought his military background was a little unique Not a lot of Marines apply to Yale right. So he got into Yale and then he found a world that he never knew existed, a world of networking. They don't do grades at Yale. Did you know that? Yeah, because there's only like 200 people accepted a year.
Speaker 6:So it's a club.
Speaker 3:There's no grades, you just like kind of live around campus and you hobnob and you take different studies and you just kind of flow through and flow through? Yeah, Wow. Yeah, and he's like what's this? And it was like we want the best from you. What's the best mean?
Speaker 7:What do you think? The?
Speaker 3:best means, and that's why some things are becoming bullshitting.
Speaker 6:Yeah.
Speaker 3:Really, truly. He saw that and he's like he goes to apply for jobs and he's filling out applications and dropping them off with jeans and his combat boots and they're looking at him like what? Like you could be 4.0 student in the the? They're like garbage, you know. And they're like no, no, no, the resume comes after you've met and you've already gotten hired, that's just so they can put it in the file. You know like he learned how, how that world works. The rich do not fill out employment applications. They don't do that. That's the thing he learned, like, and there's a whole series of things. Good book totally worth a read. So when jd and jd vance talks about in one instance because he interned with a state senator in ohio and there was a bill to get rid of payday loans, like you know the little right prepaid payday loan predatory lending bingo, except jd vance comes from a world where sometimes that's the only way you could actually get some cash right
Speaker 3:because you couldn't. Visa wasn't going to have you, mastercard wasn't going to have you and that was the only way you could get access to fast cash for emergencies. And he worked for a senator who voted against the bill and he never told him why he voted against it. But jd vance, when he read it, was like this would devastate my community because we did live on payday loans. We had to. He's like if you cut that off, there's no alternative. Like that's the last. There's no credit required opportunity to do that. And he's like and it's guaranteed by the check. Is it predatory? Yes, so is visa, but he's like the, the whole entire phrase of predatory lending for payday loans is an op by the payday loans who want revolving credit. See, the payday loan is paid the moment you get paid. So you pay your high APR 27% but they make pennies on the transaction. But it's paid and done. You're free. With Visa, you're having a little minimum payment, minimum payment minimum payment minimum payment each year.
Speaker 6:You get on the hamster wheel.
Speaker 3:So which one is predatory?
Speaker 6:Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 3:The Visa's predatory? Yeah, I don't know, the visa is predatory, not the payday loan. The payday loan is is just mercantilism you need some money.
Speaker 6:Great post data check well, I think they call it predatory because it's a huge slash, you know, just for the transaction so is visa two.
Speaker 3:Not only do you pay, not only do you pay interest, but the merchant pays, pays 2% too. Sure, it's a slight. There's no comparison here. There's no. Like anybody who calls payday lending predatory clearly does not understand the credit card market.
Speaker 6:Well, that's what I'm saying. They're both predatory Payday lending.
Speaker 3:I can say I wanted to double my money. The terms are clear. The payment set. It's one payment, it's over. There's one payment is over. There's no predatory anything. Okay, okay, there's no predatory anything. What's predatory is it's a low interest rate based on the libor market, which is going up. And, by the way, can you calculate how you arrive at your minimum payment amounts? No, it's a joke, but all right. Long story short. Jd vance understands the lived experience of a peasant of the hillbilly. He understands payday lending. It sounds great. You've never used it. You've never used it. You've never been in a situation where you didn't have access to that extra $500. Or, if you have, you went to the people bank. You went to your dad to borrow the $500. What happens when your dad, your grandpa, your uncle, your uncle and your cousin none of them have 500 bucks?
Speaker 3:or they don't exist payday yeah okay, they don't exist exactly.
Speaker 3:The other thing, too, is payday lending rewards work okay so when jd vance gives this speech talking about crypto, he understands this, isn't? He's? This to me does not feel agenda driven. This to me does not feel like he's protecting the nation. He's. He clearly wants to protect the country.
Speaker 3:Remember, the country is the land and her people. From dust you come to dust you go the moment you start talking about a nation. A nation has citizens, which are essentially a synonym for employees or subject. The nation is a corporation. It's the political agreements that we make, right, so we are a country under god in a republic with a, you know, a nation like there's a nation. So when we talk about the nation, to me he's not necessarily defending the nation, because the nation right now is wrapped up with the Federal Reserve. He's defending the republic or the country. When he makes this statement about crypto and I'm not, I don't know Apparently, microsoft's got something and they're saying they're going to be able, within the next 12 months, break the blockchain blockchain encryption with their new AI blockchain breaker, blockchain encryption with their new AI blockchain breaker. So, fyi, you know, bitcoin might only be around for another 12 months, just in that alone, but again, the principle of Bitcoin is beautiful.
Speaker 14:Is a hedge against bad policymaking from Washington, no matter what party's in control. It's a hedge against skyrocketing inflation, which has eroded the savings rate of Americans over the last four years, and, as you all know well, it's a hedge against a private sector that's increasingly willing to discriminate against consumers on the basis of their basic beliefs, including their politics their politics. That includes, of course, debanking users for Second Amendment advocacy or for ties to the first Trump administration. In Canada, the government did the same to kill those big truck driver protests in 2022. Less than a week later, they succeeded. The protests were over.
Speaker 14:But, maybe most importantly, I see crypto as a hedge against one of the most dangerous trends in the digital era, in both the public and private sector, and that's of elites who, rather than innovate themselves, prefer to simply take over and co-opt cutting-edge technologies to assert their control over other people. And I know we believe this in this room. That's not Bitcoin, it'll never be Bitcoin, and you guys are going to make sure that happens not Bitcoin it'll never be Bitcoin and you guys are going to make sure that happens.
Speaker 3:To have a vice president say that speech. Think about that. He's admitting that the government has used financial and banking policy to censor, to debank, to achieve their political ends. The regime in power. They've used those tools against you.
Speaker 3:What do I always say? It doesn't matter if the boot's coming from the left or the right, it's still a boot on your neck. We have this small moment right now where we have a president and a vice president who are as connected as you're ever going to get to the common man at that level, I don't know. Like you, you're never going to get JD Vance to not remember what it was like to be hungry, to be alone, to be afraid, growing up in suburbs of Ohio. You're not going to have them forget that it's like me. You're never going to have me forget what it was like sitting in in huts in Brazil trying to help people figure out their lives and being like oh yeah, there's a situation here. I can't just say go to school. I can't just say hey, you know, everything will be okay If you learn to read.
Speaker 6:Right.
Speaker 3:You know what I mean.
Speaker 6:Like church, doesn't solve all your problems.
Speaker 3:Church doesn't solve all your problems, but it's a good start right you know, but like I, like, you'll never be able to take that away from me to be like no, you have to care for your neighbors. That's all you have. That's all you really have is your family, your neighbors, like push, come to shove. You know all these benefits that the government owes us, yeah, well, when they can't pay and that check comes overdrawn, you're left holding the bag every time, every stinking time. So to hear him say, like crypto is a hedge against that, well, you should be looking at crypto, because this might be the last time in the next hundred years we get two people at the office that will come out against their own national interest.
Speaker 3:Bitcoin's not good for the Federal Reserve and the US dollar okay, so it's pretty incredible that he's sharing that message. So I'm just saying, not directing anybody's financial path, but I don't know. Consider it all right, guys. That's it for the show today. Don't forget to visit peasants, perspectivecom left behind without um, withoutorg and check us out on all the socials. Links are in the show notes below.
Speaker 1:We'll talk to you guys again tomorrow. Bye, old woman, man, man, sorry, what knight lives in that castle over there? I'm 37. What I'm 37. I'm not old. Well, I can't just call you man. You could say Dennis. I didn't know you were called Dennis. You didn't bother to find out, did you? I did say sorry about the old woman, but from behind you looked.
Speaker 1:What I object to is that you automatically treat me like an inferior. Well, I am king, oh, king, eh, very nice. And how do you get that? Eh, by exploiting the workers, by hanging on to outdated imperialist dogma which perpetuates the economic and social differences in our society, if there's ever going to be any progress there is. There's some lovely filth down here. Oh, how do you do? How do you do?
Speaker 1:Good, lady, I am Arthur, king of the Britons. Whose castle is that? King of the who, the Britons? Who are the Britons? Well, we all are. We are all Britons and I am your king. I didn't know we had a king. I thought we were an autonomous collective. You're fooling yourself. We're living in a dictatorship, a self-perpetuating autocracy in which the working classes oh, there you go bringing class into the gang. That's what it's all about. If only people would, please, please, good people, I, I am in haste. Who lives in that castle? No one lives there. Then who is your lord? We don't have a lord. What I told you? We're an anarcho-syndicalist commune. We take it in turns to act as a sort of executive officer for the week, but all the decisions of that officer have to be ratified at a special bi-weekly meeting. Yes, I see, by a simple majority. In the case of purely internal affairs, be yes.
Speaker 1:I see by a simple majority in the case of purely internal affairs, be quiet. But by a two-thirds majority in the case of more major, be quiet. I order you to be quiet. Order. Who does he think he is? I'm your king. Well, I didn't vote for you. You don't vote for kings? Well, I can become king. Then the lady of the lake, her arm clad in the purest, shimmering semite, held aloft Excalibur from the bosom of the water, signifying by divine providence that I, arthur, was to carry Excalibur. That is why I'm your king.
Speaker 1:Listen, strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government. Supreme executive power derives from a mandate from the masses, not from some farcical aquatic ceremony. Be quiet. You can't expect to wield supreme executive power just because some watery tart threw a sword at you. Shut up. If I went round saying I was an emperor just because some moistened bint had lobbed a scimitar at me, they'd put me away. Shut up, will you Shut up? Ah, now we see the violence inherent in the system. Shut up. Oh, come and see the violence inherent in the system. Help, help, I'm being repressed, bloody peasant. Oh, what a giveaway. Did you hear that? Did you hear that? Eh, that's what I'm on about. Did you see him repressing me? You saw it, didn't you?
