The J6 PipeBomber is arrested

Chapters

• 0:59 Breaking: J6 Pipe Bomber Arrest Claim
• 2:57 Debating The Suspect’s Identity And Viability
• 5:39 Chat Banter And Show Warm-Up
• 5:39 Venezuelan Intel Chief’s Letter Read-Aloud
• 17:28 Can We Verify These Claims
• 22:01 Trump, Courts, And Media Projection
• 26:34 Pentagon Strikes And Double Tap Debate
• 34:21 Poverty, Cartels, And Hard Choices
• 39:20 Operation Mockingbird And Engineered Reality
• 47:04 Cartel Capture And Regulatory Capture
• 52:45 Somali Crime, Fraud, And Minnesota Politics
• 1:04:55 Unvetted Entrants And Policy Exemptions
• 1:09:17 New Indictment Rumors And Missouri Populists
• 1:15:12 Trump Pardons A Conservative Democrat

Transcript

SPEAKER_13: 0:59

Where are those people? Where are those people? Good morning, peasants. Welcome to another episode of The Peasants Perspective. And literally minutes before the show started, we got notification that we got some pretty amazing news.

SPEAKER_27: 1:30

We don't know the suspect's name or anything about this person, other than the fact this is a male that was living in Northern Virginia, arrested at some point within the last 90 minutes now in federal custody. I'm told we'll know more as the day moves on. And as soon as we have the information, of course, we will break in with that. But just this past October, a couple of months ago, the FBI put out this enhanced uh video and pictures of Dude, it's totally a woman. I just I cannot buy that that is a male. No suspect planning pipe bombs near a bench outside the DNC in Washington on January 5th, 2021, the night before the attack on the U.S. Capitol. The suspect then placed the same type of bomb outside the RNC minutes later. The suspect, as I said, wore a face mask, hooded sweatshirt, glasses, gloves. But using FBI technology, agents told the public the suspect they believe is around five foot seven inches. We'll see, Bill, if that rings true once we get an identity later today. Agents say the two bombs were placed between 7 30 and 8 30 at night. The bombs did not detonate, but this is important. They were viable. They could have hurt people, they could have killed people. Those bombs were discovered the next day. Over the past four years, agents visited 1,200 homes and businesses, conducted more than a thousand interviews, reviewed approximately 39,000 video files, went through 600 tips. It's notable the reward bill in Dana was half a million dollars,$500,000.

SPEAKER_13: 2:57

I just don't believe it.

SPEAKER_27: 2:59

No.

SPEAKER_13: 2:59

Like, first of all, yeah, the five years to get to it, right? Like, oh, this is right around the corner in Northern Virginia. It's like, come on. I don't blah I'm concerned. First of all, are the pipe bombs viable? Not viable. Right? They're viable, but yet they were set 14 hours when they had a one-hour egg timer with 20 minutes left. Doesn't make any sense. They look like a hokey training device, like identical to the training devices that you look like they were made by the ACMA company. Yeah, I'm pretty compelled by the Blaze reporting that this was a female that was walking around at night. Now, I'm not against the idea that we don't know, like the pipe bomber didn't, that's not the pipe bomber.

SPEAKER_16: 3:37

That could be.

SPEAKER_13: 3:37

Right? I'm not opposed to the idea that it was another set but quit trying to sell that video then. Yeah, it's one or the other. Like Julie Kelly can't be right. Well, I don't think that's the pipe bomber at all. I think it was January 6th, the morning of. Well, that's possibility. If that's the lead they're going with, then this person that's walking around disappears. Why have you been asking for a or offering a half million dollar reward for a figure that ends up not being the suspect? So we'll wait and see. But uh to me, man, oh man, I just smell Patsy, Patsy, Patsy all over this. So we'll wait and see. Like evidence is evidence, comes out, you know. I mean, like, I can change my opinion, no problem. But uh okay. So that kind of calls into question, you know, Steve Baker when he's like the high-level intelligence was like, oh my gosh, this is one of ours. You know, I don't know. So that broke we were playing the intro when I saw that pop up on my phone from uh a J6 chat thread that I have, right? And I pulled it up while we were in the intro. So I don't know anything about it other than ah, we're about to find out the identity. They arrested them 90 minutes ago, which probably means really truly within minutes we could be finding out the name and identity, and then the internet sluice will go to work. So good morning, everybody. Good morning, Mata Isel. Good morning, Bree Ageur Fraser. I got so many weird names in here. These are hard names for me to pronounce. John Atis, good morning, Pony Boy, good morning, Eva Razel. Eva Razel, you'd think I'd have a bunch of like Latin people in the chat.

SPEAKER_16: 5:14

I just assume you knew who all these people were and knew how to say it. I I don't know who all of them are.

SPEAKER_13: 5:20

Uh I think I know who some of them are. I like, yeah, I don't know. Who knows? Sometimes I think I know who someone is, and then someone will be like, I was this other name, and I'm like, oh, then whoops, I've been talking to someone else as if they were you. Uh, anyways, totally fine. I love all the vanity names. I just don't have a cheat sheet to know who everybody is. Okay, so something else happened yesterday. There was an op-ed that was uh posted, or really it was a letter that was written by uh who Hugo Chavez's former chief of intelligence who then became Maduro's chief of intelligence. Okay. And he's currently sitting in a prison in New York on federal drug drug charges. And Emerald Robinson had explained here we have the head of intelligence for Venezuela, and he's never been debriefed by the FBI or anything. They're just rolling him through this trial, not asking anybody around them about anything. Now, I know how this goes because you think he, you know, a high-level terrorist who led the riot on January 6th, allegedly in their paperwork, right? That they would have interviewed, say, the people I traveled with. Nope, no interest, don't care. They've got enough, they don't need it. So this was what was going on with this uh intelligence, former intelligence head, just never debriefed. So they've gotten to him, and now I think he's in some kind of witness protection-y type thing going on there, which it's called protective custody. I'm assuming he was probably in that already, but he wrote this letter to the president of the United States that was published in some newspapers yesterday. My name is Hugo Carvalho Barreos. For many years, I was a high-ranking member of the Venezuelan regime. I was a three-star general, trusted by both Hugo Chavez and Nicolas Maduro, and served as the director of military intelligence and a deputy in the National Assembly. Today I sit in an American prison because I voluntarily pled guilty to the crimes charged against me, a narcoterrorism conspiracy. I write to atone, telling the t the f the full truth so that the United States can protect itself from the dangers I witnessed for so many years. I publicly broke with the Maduro regime in 2017 and fled my country, knowing that I faced criminal charges in the United States. In so doing so, I became the enemy. Knowing the risk, I acted with the strongest conviction to dismantle Maduro's criminal regime and bring freedom to my country. Today I see the need to address the American people about the reality of what the Venezuelan regime truly is and why President Trump's policies are not only correct, but absolutely necessary to the United States' national security. Narco-terrorism. I personally witness how Hugo Chavez's government became the criminal organization that is now run by Nicolas Maduro, uh, DeSodado Caballo, and other senior regime officials. The purpose of this organization is known as the Cartel of the Suns is to weaponize drugs against the United States. The drugs that reached your cities through new routes were not accidents of corruption, nor just the work of independent traffickers. They were deliberate policies coordinated by the Venezuelan regime against the United States. This plan was suggested by the Cuban regime to Chavez in the mid-2000s and has been successfully executed with the help of FARC, ELN, Cuban operatives, and Hezbollah. The regime has provided weapons, passports, and impunity for these terrorist organizations to operate freely from Venezuela against the United States. Trendeagua. I was present when decisions were made to organize and weaponize criminal gangs across Venezuela to protect the regime. Among them the group known as Trendeagua. Chavez ordered the recruitment of criminal leaders inside and outside of prisons to defend the revolution in exchange for impunity. Hugo Chavez died. Maduro expanded the strategy by exploiting criminality and chaos abroad to target Venezuelan political elites, exiles, and artificially reduced crime statistics within Venezuela. Gang leaders were instructed to send thousands of members out of the country. This was a coordinated through the Ministry of Interior and the Ministry of Prisons, the National Guard, National Police Forces. Trem Diagua became the most effective and fastest growing. When the Biden Harris open border policy became widely known, they seized the opportunity to send these operatives into the United States. They now have obedient armed personnel on American soil. To finance their operations, they were explicitly instructed to continue kidnapping, extorting, and killing. Every crime they commit on your soil is an act ordered by the regime. Counterintelligence and espionage against the United States. I was present when Russian intelligence came to Caracas to propose to Hugo Chavez the tapping of submarine internet cables that connect most of South America and the Caribbean islands with the United States for the purpose of penetrated United States government communications. In 2015, I warned Maduro that allowing Russian intelligence to build and run a secret listening post on Lorchila Island would one day invite American bombs. He ignored me. For 20 years, the Venezuelan regime sent spies into your country. Many are still there, some disguised as members of the Venezuela's opposition. Cuban intelligence showed me their networks inside your naval bases on the East Coast. They bragged about having sent thousands of spies overseas for decades. Some now career politicians. U.S. diplomats and CIA officers were paid to assist Chavez and Maduro in remaining in power. These Americans acted as spies for Cuba and Venezuela, and some remain active to this day. Smartmatic in your elections, Smartmatic was born as an electoral tool of the Venezuelan regime, but soon derived into a tool that would help the regime stay in power forever. I know this because I placed the head of IT of the National Electoral Council, CNE, in his position. And he reported directly to me the Smartmatic system can be altered. This is a fact. This technology was later exported abroad, including to the United States. Regime operatives maintain relationships with election officials and voting machine companies inside your country. I do not claim that every election is stolen, but I state with certainty that elections can be rigged with software and has been used to do so. People of the United States make no mistake about the threat posed by allowing a narco-terrorist organization to roam freely in the Caribbean and throughout Latin America, doing everything possible to harm the American people, to finance anti-American anti-Americanism across the continent, and to facilitate the operations of other terrorist organizations and enemies of the United States within Venezuela and now within your borders. The regime I serve is not merely hostile, it is at war with you, using drugs, gangs, espionage, and even your own democratic processes as weapons. President Trump's policies against the Major criminal regime are not just justified but necessary and proportionate to the threat. He may even be underestimating what the regime is prepared to do to hold on to power. They have contingency plans for every extreme scenario to ensure they never relinquish control. I absolutely support President Trump's policy towards Venezuela because of itself, it is self-defense and he is acting based on truth. I remain ready to provide additional details about these matters to the United States government. Hugo Carval Carvala Bajios. Wow.

SPEAKER_16: 11:54

Wow. That was a long letter. Thanks for reading the whole thing.

SPEAKER_13: 11:57

Hey, listen, you know, this is our nation, this is our country. Right? If if we have been taken over by a Venezuelan cartel, I mean, I thought I would have been saying like Muslim Brotherhood or any other, you know, Russian SP Russian spies. Turns out it was Venezuela acting on behalf of Russia and China and all the other adversaries of America. Hezbollah's involved with this.

SPEAKER_16: 12:19

Is there any way that we can um like um back up this letter? I mean, has he said anything publicly at all?

SPEAKER_13: 12:27

Uh nothing in that letter has not been what was reported four years ago by guys like Rudy Giuliani and Sidney Powell who brought this issue to the forefront and were literally destroyed for doing sure.

SPEAKER_16: 12:39

And we're lapping it up because it's exactly what we want to hear, but uh yeah, confirmation bias. Sure. And so that's what I'm trying to guard against. Is there any way that we can, you know, confirm that these words came from him? Uh I mean, because this is a letter that could easily be crafted by anybody.

SPEAKER_13: 12:55

No, this letter was published in newspapers, it came from him through the prison system mail. I don't think there's any doubt the letter originates from him. Okay. The doubt might be that he's lying to try to get a pardon or something like that. Right? That he's he's this is too good to verify. Take it at face value, and away we go.

SPEAKER_16: 13:11

It's a perfect moment to leverage a letter like this because it's in jail.

SPEAKER_13: 13:14

Yeah, I mean, he and we're you know hot to trot on Venezuela. Right.

SPEAKER_16: 13:18

But the contention of Then all of a sudden he's gonna make positive statements in a letter about Trump and Venezuela and voting, and it's like it's all very tidy.

SPEAKER_13: 13:26

Well, yeah, it is. It really is.

SPEAKER_16: 13:30

I guess we'll just have to take it.

SPEAKER_13: 13:32

One of the things one of the things that I've realized going through this is oftentimes the initial conspiracy theory ends up being the thing the whole time. It's just we overcomplicated. It's like, what is it, Occam's razor or whatever law? It's like, you know, whatever, whatever the most likely situation is the most likely situation. And then there's that whole idea, don't chalk up to some grand conspiracy what can be explained by stupidity. But then you get to a certain point and you're like, they can't all be this stupid, right? It's like 98% of judicial decisions go against Donald Trump. And then they get one at the Supreme Court. They can't all be that stupid. They can't all be able to do that.

SPEAKER_16: 14:06

I'm on board with it. I'm on board. I'm just like, when I see these letters, it's like, damn, you know, these are all two perfect letters.

SPEAKER_13: 14:13

Absolutely, absolutely that could be. Now, Giuliani recently was saying this again, these people have been vindicated one time after another.

SPEAKER_00: 14:21

So little time to change this place and get it on the right track so that it so that it survives as the great nation that we were given. And that we live up to our to our challenge, our our obligation, our birthright, which is to uh turn this country over greater than it was turned over to us. That's that's what we had so far. We're not there. We're not there yet. So there's a lot of work to be done. You stay with us and we'll talk about that work that has to be done. Luckily, we've got a president who wants to do it. Unfortunately, he has tremendous forces arrayed against him. And it really takes an imassive amount of thinking and analysis to see through it. And I want to help you with that. Okay, boom.

SPEAKER_13: 14:59

Yep. I mean, we've got dude. The guy's bankrupt. He's through criminal and civil procedures the last four years. I mean, this Ruby Freeman, who's on tape saying that she essentially rigged an election on behalf of other people and was worried that they weren't gonna cover for her. Like, literally, Harrison Ford gets his pardon and the case gets dismissed, and he starts releasing tape that he was prevented by a gag order from releasing. And yet Ruby Freeman sued Rudy Giuliani and got like 150 million dollars, which basically meant they got all of his cars, rings, and you know, bank accounts, you know, took his apartment. Like the cheater won. Our judicial system propped up the cheating party. You know, it's unbelievable. Uh, I was gonna start out the show with this today. Uh, Stephen Miller was on with Jesse Waters, and uh Pete Buttig apparently said that anybody in the world would be allowed to watch his children except for Stephen Miller.

SPEAKER_15: 15:54

He just said anybody could watch my kids except Miller.

SPEAKER_06: 15:57

Well, I think I think in fairness, he's worried that if uh babysitter uh babysat is kids, they come back after a couple hours and they would say, Daddy, why don't you send the military into Minnesota to help us with the Somali refugee?

SPEAKER_15: 16:11

Miller, you you constantly you're trouble. I bet people just try to contain you at the White House.

SPEAKER_13: 16:18

Don't let Miller off the leash. Go spend a couple hours with Stephen Miller. Daddy, why don't you send the boats into Minnesota to help with the refugee crisis or the Somalis? What a good sense of humor. He's the one that everybody's like overly concerned that he's a Nazi, right? Probably a little, man. He's American nationalists. That's Scott Bessett was uh was really debunking this idea. It's hilarious how the left is running with this Trump's got dementia, he's breaking down, he's getting worse every day. There are like legit headlines coming out of like New York Times and WAPO and places like that, claiming that Donald Trump is mentally declining.

SPEAKER_29: 16:58

And it's yeah, I've seen him.

SPEAKER_13: 17:00

He's 80 years old or 79, and you know, oh, so he stutter steps on occasion. I stutter step. You know what I mean? Like it's not that big a deal. Give me a break. Or, you know, he had the discoloration in his hands. Come on, man, everybody goes through some rash or something. You know, the guy's old, of course he's got a Joe Rogan went through one. He's not dying. Scott Messen's like, this president works around all of us.

SPEAKER_08: 17:24

Sean, uh he'll he'll call me. Uh Scott, the uh I didn't wake you, did you? No, sir. I'm always awake at 152 on a Tuesday. And I can tell you we we we did the the trip to Alaska, we did a round trip one day, and we we arrived back, the rest of the cabinet, Secretary Rubio, uh Secretary Lutnick and I, you know, our batteries are out. We land the uh at Andrews, and the president's, oh, it's morning in Europe now. I I think we had spent probably 20 hours in the air in Alaska, and he said, Let's start making phone calls and call the European leaders. Yeah. So we had to sit on the we sat on the tarmac for two more hours while he made phone calls. He never stops working for the American people. It's incredible. I want to talk.

SPEAKER_13: 18:16

So that's that's our dimension-riddled president. The the whole, you know, one of the things that explains so much of the Democrats' narrative that they push is whatever Biden did, right? It's the projection. We're gonna paint you with our sins. So Biden was dementia-riddled, Biden wasn't showing up to cabinet meetings, Biden was having this. Let's say Trump did it. Let's make sure we balance out the headlines. It's ridiculous. It really is ridiculous. Um, this issue with Venezuela, I am absolutely convinced by the president himself, as he tweets out Laura Logan's interview with Gary, the CIA operative, uh Patrick Byrne's you know, media tour. Trump tweets out an InfoWars interview with Patrick Byrne and uh Alex Jones, right? Trump's truth social is really rude. Like he's on this one. In fact, if if we get military tribunals, Trump is telling us. I mean, he's boasting like meme after meme after meme. Nothing changes till these people get arrested, you know? So he's definitely on it. The question is, is he gonna have some help? Because the narrative is this idea that Trump is a war criminal and the people around him are war criminals.

SPEAKER_07: 19:24

Was this self-defense? And how do the rules of international waters play into whether this was a war crime?

SPEAKER_15: 19:32

Yeah, in my opinion, no. This is not self-defense. And no matter where you do the strike, if it's not self-defense, then it's illegal. And look, I have a lot of that's why we call this Department of War, not the Department of Defense, right? Right of sympathy, but the general idea that when we send our service members out into combat, they got some very difficult decisions to make. And you look at what was going on in Iraq and Afghanistan, and you're you're stopping someone. Do they have a gun? Do they have a suicide vest? Are they a threat? When you were in the middle of an insurgency with roadside bombs and car bombs and all of that, even in the aftermath of the Afghanistan pull-up when we had that suicide bomber kill 13 service members and hundreds of people in Kabul, and we did that strike against a car that we thought was a threat that turned out not to be a threat. I have some sympathy for that.

SPEAKER_13: 20:22

But people on a Nobody was court-martialed for that, by the way. You killed a completely innocent person because they had water bottles in the back of their car. You know what I'm talking about? So the advocate where the 13 people were killed, 13 service members on our way out of Afghanistan. So we went and targeted the terrorist. Turns out it wasn't the terrorist, it was just some random dude that was unloading water bottles from the trunk of his car, and we blew them out of the sky with a drone. And then they're like, oopsies, and then later they go and they're like, Well, this guy actually did it, but he's still on the run. And it's like, dude, you where's the court martialing?

SPEAKER_15: 20:58

Quote in the middle of the Caribbean, carrying cocaine are not a direct threat to the lives of our service members for Americans. Okay, but you forgot the word my.

SPEAKER_16: 21:11

They're carrying my cocaine. Miller responds to this.

SPEAKER_18: 21:16

Dems are just trying to protect terrorists.

SPEAKER_06: 21:20

Stephen Miller. All right, Miller, have you ever heard of a controversy like this in your life? No. This is the first time I can ever think where a major political party has sided with narco trafficking, murdering, terrorist scum. You know, you play one of those uh clips from a Democrat who said, Oh, there's no such thing as a narco-terrorist, they're just narco-persons. And these narco-terrorists in our hemisphere use the same tactics. They use rape as a weapon. They skin people alive, they cut off their heads, they burn them to death. These narco-terrorists, if a politician opposes them, they kidnap their family. If they don't give them what they want, they murder their family. You can go to the Border Patrol here in the United States and you can say, draw me a map of the border, and on the Mexican side, tell me which cartel controls every inch of territory. And the border agents can literally say, mile by mile, which cartel controls which section of the border. Not the Mexican government, they don't control it. Which cartel. When President Trump declared these organizations, foreign terrorist organizations, that wasn't just a talking point. That wasn't just a buzzword. It was a promise. A promise from this president to use hard American power to kill and to stop these terrorists, these enemies of the United States, from killing our families, from killing our children, from taking over our communities.

SPEAKER_13: 22:54

And my perspective on drugs radically changed when I was in prison. And I don't know that I was ever pro-drug. I just didn't know how big a problem it was. I didn't understand the carnage that it leaves behind in society. And when I got into prison and I was like, oh my goodness, this is carnage. You know, there's a fair amount of prisoners that could have that need rehab more than they need prison, right? But there's also the dealers. So there's a completely different world. Now, this topic should be the last time we hear from it. We shouldn't hear anymore about double tapping drug boats in the middle of the Caribbean, right? Because ABC, who had an exclusive story on this, the leak, that there was a double tap, that the survivors were clinging to the boat. Well, the Pentagon did their report, they got their IG report out and they released it.

SPEAKER_12: 23:38

And turns out tonight, new information. According to a source familiar with the incident, the two survivors climbed back onto the boat after the initial strike. They were believed to be potentially in communication with others and salvaging some of the drugs. Because of that, it was determined they were still in the fight and valid targets. A JAG officer was also giving legal advice.

SPEAKER_13: 24:04

This backs up the entire second strike. Yes, I mean so basically the whole thing fall, you know, they got back on the boat, got on the radio, the Pentagon, and intercepted a message. Hey, come help us and rescue us. Still in the fight. It's like so we should be done, right? This should be over.

SPEAKER_16: 24:24

Well, that's not the only information that they would be transmitting. They would be letting other people know, hey, they're blowing up boats over here, go somewhere else, or exactly, or come rescue us, or whatever the case is.

SPEAKER_13: 24:35

Either way, they didn't put up the white flag and say, Come rescue us. No, they they went back and said, Hey, you guys come rescue. Right? So this is war.

SPEAKER_16: 24:44

Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_13: 24:45

This is war. That's the thing you have to realize. And Dan Crenshaw, who, you know, I'm not a huge fan of, but he was a former Navy SEAL.

SPEAKER_31: 24:51

I can't recall any time in my history doing counterterrorism operations where we we we strike a group, whether that's a building or a boat or a vehicle, and then we were like, oh well, they're survivors, so we have to go, we we can't kill them. Of course we killed them.

SPEAKER_13: 25:06

I can't recall them. Of course we killed them. We were gonna kill them on the first strike. If we missed, we finished the job. Listen, man, war is war. I oppose it vehemently. I wish that we didn't have to do any of this. I wish Hugo Chavez and Trump could strike a deal, and Hugo Chavez could go retire on an Antarctic island or something like that. Right.

SPEAKER_16: 25:26

And let's not do any killing anywhere ever.

SPEAKER_13: 25:28

Yeah, that'd be great. But that's just not the world we live in, right? You don't know what it's like to grow up in a Somali pirate-dominated society. You don't know what it's like to live in abject poverty in the third world of Brazil. I served my mission there. I know the temptation these people have for a better life. Anybody can provide a better life. They're not loyal to the American flag, they're not loyal to the Brazilian flag, they're loyal to their dinner table and their bellies, right? And that's what you're dealing with here. You're dealing with people who have decided that Maduro is a nation state, that he is sovereign, that he has the ability to declare life and death, and that strong man is going to attract other people who want to live that life, you know, and feed their families. And if that's the only way to feed their families, that's what you're gonna do.

SPEAKER_16: 26:10

Right. And they don't got a Starbucks on the corner, they can go get a minimum wage job at.

SPEAKER_13: 26:15

No, but but at the same time, there's choices that people make, right? There's choices that people make. The vast majority of Venezuela is begging for Americans to come and and rescue them from Maduro, right? Vast majority, it's like 80% support. Okay. Why is that? Because Maduro is destroying their country.

SPEAKER_16: 26:32

Why have these, you know? Well, they're tired of the drug economy ruling their entire country.

SPEAKER_13: 26:36

When you listen to Patrick Byrne, who they went and flipped some of these people inside of Venezuela, these high-level people, and you know, why are you flipping? And they're like, Well, we're communists, we believe in all this stuff, and we totally bought the vision. But COVID happened. So they were they saw COVID, they saw what was going around the world, the lockdowns, and they were like, oh whoa. That this is not like we already, you know, they live in Venezuela, their cousins and friends are losing weight, eating cats and dogs, running from the cannibals. So when they saw COVID, they saw the same cabal that they're working with, that they've been able to institute that type of totalitarian control, and then ignoring the population their paradigm got tested in a different way. All of a sudden they're like, oh, this isn't the utopia that we were trying to build. Right. And that's why they flipped.

SPEAKER_22: 27:23

Right.

SPEAKER_13: 27:24

You see what I'm saying? There's a well, I don't even want to say there's a decent argument. I'm gonna bypass decent argument for why socialism is a reality. Like, we the people is a socialist program, right? The so you can see why people are drawn to it. I understand why people are drawn to it. However, the carnage that comes from it, a lot of people that were hardcore socialists, collectivists, communists, once they see the end result, they bail.

SPEAKER_18: 27:50

Okay.

SPEAKER_13: 27:51

Now, one of the things, too, that you have to keep in mind, and we deal with this every day, is we pay clips from the media and we kind of dissect who's saying what and what's their intention and motivations and stuff like that. Anybody who listened to the news growing up before the advent of the internet, there's a good chance that we all lived under a Psyop. Oh, yeah. Right. And this is where you get the space race and whether we did or didn't go to the moon and like that, right? Well, for people that grew up watching TV to get their information.

SPEAKER_14: 28:25

So if you talk to your parents, every news anchor that they remember from their childhood, there's like a 90% chance that was a uh actual CIA operative. And this is documented, released documents. Guys like Walter Cronkite, like one of the most famous news anchors of all time, talking to the CIA to engineer reality. And they're in the business of engineering reality, and you just have to understand that so much of our reality is engineered. It doesn't mean you walk around like a schizophrenic thinking that everything's out to get you, everybody's targeting you. It just means like you see something happen on the news, you see something happen in your life, and you just have one word. Just memorize this one word when you when you anybody listening, when you when you hear that stuff or see that stuff, maybe. Maybe. They say, Oh, this happened today because of this one thing. Maybe. Just maybe. You don't have to say there's some global cabal and like I need to drill down to the end and go break into the bohemian grove and like figure out all the sh that's going on. You don't need to do all of it. Just maybe. That word can protect you from so much of the the that's going on with with engineered reality. So if you talk to your parents, every news anchor that they remember. From the Venezuelan intelligence, maybe right.

SPEAKER_13: 29:43

You know what maybe means? Maybe means doubt. Doubt, exactly. Maybe. Right? Maybe that's the case. Maybe you're lying to me. Maybe you're telling me the truth. I'm gonna have to triangulate this. I'm gonna need more points of contact. I'm gonna wanna know your original sources. Because if I got 19 people telling me something strong. True, all citing the same one guy. I have one guy telling me what's true. I have a bunch of mocking birds talking to me.

SPEAKER_16: 30:06

Right. I guess it's that it's that is the exactly why I was like, that letter you read. I was like, well, do we have any other thing to back it up?

SPEAKER_13: 30:13

The reason the letter, for me, the reason the letter is relevant is it goes all the way back to 2020 when almost instantly they're like, Yeah, where'd these machines come from? Venezuela? Oh, Venezuela. And then all of a sudden it just starts popping. And this is where Sydney Powell and Rudy Juliana are like, you need to get the military involved, you need to go over here, you need to get the military, you know, you need to grab these machines, back, you know, all this stuff. They obviously figured out that the the IP address for what was manipulating the machines was in Serbia. You know, they went and did the work and they've revealed it. Unfortunately, they're spending like Patrick Byrne is going on Emerald Robinson, Alex Jones every day, and a couple other shows, and they're just filling the bean. They're happy. They're like, truck's got the info, we're surrounding Venezuela, we're finally there. That's the point, right? This whole time there's been this brewing thing, they figured it out, but they're not telling us the truth. This is about drugs. Venezuela's been at war with us, they've used the drugs as a weapon. That's their private and corporals as the drug dealers, right? The generals and the lieutenant colonels, they're the ones back in the room dealing with the election software to make sure they're soft on crime drugs, drugs. So the guys that they've deployed into the United States, literally, this is a military operation, that when they go into prison that they're taken care of and then they get out sooner to come back into the fight. That's one of the other things that I want people to understand. When you put a cartel member into prison, you're not doing anything to them. No, okay, they're deployed. We we send our soldiers overseas for 18 months at a time repeatedly, right? And that's part of the sacrifice. They signed up for Trendai Agua and Cartel de Souls. They left their family and whatever, if they had one.

SPEAKER_16: 31:52

They're already in prison. They're in prison on day one.

SPEAKER_13: 31:54

This is just a deployment.

SPEAKER_16: 31:55

Yeah.

SPEAKER_13: 31:56

You know what I mean? And they've got friends in prison that take care of them and they have funding. I've seen it. They get funding from the outside. Where's that money coming from? A lot of money from the cartels, guaranteed, gets funneled through the BOP just to buy commissary. It's a very cheap expense for a cartel guy. Oh, you went to prison?$300 a month pays for that guy and is going to keep him really happy in prison. You know what I mean? And it's just a deployment. A lot of these guys view it just that way. It's a deployment. The guys that cross the border and get re-entry charges and get a year and a day, get out in you know, eight months. It's like it's just part of the gig.

SPEAKER_18: 32:27

Yep.

SPEAKER_13: 32:27

Now, one of the things that's also going on over at the White House, excuse me, not the White House, is the Pentagon, is they've completely revamped their media reporting. Are you and we talked about this briefly, like for minutes, five, six weeks ago. So the Pentagon kicked out AP News, Washington Post, New York Times, kicked them all out and opened the door for new registrations. And so now we have a bunch of independent media in the White in the Pentagon with press passes that are official Pentagon correspondents. People like Laura Loomer is now sitting in the Pentagon getting brief getting you know media briefings. Matt Gates is now an official Pentagon reporter. Okay. Now remember, most of your TV anchors, many, many, many of them have CIA mockingbird connections, willing or unwillingly. And so MS Bow, formerly known as MSDNC, formerly known as MSNBC, Morning Joe and Mika had this to say.

SPEAKER_20: 33:26

And you don't have the major American newspapers in there. And he actually thought he thought he could get away with it. He thought he could get away with doing whatever he wanted to do inside the Pentagon because he has a news, he has a news source run by a Chinese religious cult reporting on him instead of the Wall Street Journal.

SPEAKER_09: 33:48

Laura Loomer has a desk in the press room at the Pentagon now. Not the Washington Post. Washington Post delivering these stories.

SPEAKER_01: 33:56

All right. Um on that note, uh joining us now, MS Now political analyst and contributing writer to the Atlantic, Eugene Robinson.

SPEAKER_13: 34:09

So we have Laura Loomer sitting at the Pentagon desk. We have to get our news from her instead of the Washington Post. Basically, what Hegset finally determined was you guys are doing propaganda work for military contractors in the Pentagon. So he basically cleaned house. Matt Gates is in there. He wore his representative Matt Gaetz jacket, and that was mess all the people's representative jacket. He's like, I worked with these guys for eight years. I'm gonna wear the jacket anywhere I want. He was also asked, um, Matt Gates at one point said something pretty derogatory about people that go to abortion clinics, women that go to abortion clinics. So, you know, for better or worse, this is what we now have reporting on military news.

SPEAKER_25: 34:52

Is it safe to say that based off of your comments, you're suggesting that these women at these abortion rallies are ugly and overweight? Yes. What do you say to people?

SPEAKER_16: 35:00

Okay, so we've we have you not seen that it goes. They couldn't change the camera angle to get that lady on the back.

SPEAKER_25: 35:09

Is it safe to say that based off of your comments, you're suggesting that these women at these abortion rallies are ugly and overweight? Yes. What do you say to people who think that those comments are offensive?

SPEAKER_30: 35:20

Be offended.

SPEAKER_13: 35:22

All right.

SPEAKER_30: 35:23

Hot take.

SPEAKER_13: 35:24

Anyways, it's pretty funny. Sometimes you gotta shame them. All right. So that's that's good news. I mean, I like this. I liked that I saw the highlights yesterday of Laura Loomer and Matt Gates and a couple other independent media sitting in the Pentagon asking questions. They need to be cross-examined. Now, the funny thing about it is because of the way Trump has staffed everything, the people answering questions are also former like influencers. So it's almost like friends answering questions of friends. But the good thing is they all want to get to the bottom of it, right? This is the new generation of people. These are most everybody that I saw there's like 40 or younger. They're my generation. I became oh man. In college, I got kind of blackpilled. And one of the things that kind of blackpilled me was this mockingbird media concept. The fact that you had so many people that give us our news and the narrative that were CIA operatives. And it was like, oh duh. I mean, it was like they had these congressional hearings. How many people are members of the media? Well, all of them in student groups and we have student papers, like basically anything that's considered media and influential, we're we're we're pushing an agenda through it. And the Senate was like, That's so bad of you. You shouldn't do that. And they're like, Yeah, you're right, we shouldn't. But it worked. They never stopped. You know, there was no resolution telling them to stop. And it was the same thing with MK Ultra, by the way. All this revelation, they went and burned half, literally, the guy, the CIA director, I can't remember his name, but he went to the the church hearings, went back to the CIA, and he ordered 80% of their files burned. Burned, destroyed, right? So we don't even know the extent of MK Ultra, but we do know one thing. They never agreed to stop doing it. Okay, they never agreed to stop doing it. Uh, it is also really interesting, too, with the Venezuelan connection. One of the things he says is there's politicians that are actively on the cartel's payroll, including some of the prominent anti-cartel, anti-Venezuela, anti-Cuban lobby that they've been co-opted. This is a tale as old as time, right? Who's Boeing gonna send their corporate spies to? The regulator, the regulator, right? This is like tail as old as time. That's why our founding fathers built a system that's supposed to have a lot of checks and balances to try to sniff out those conflicts of interest. Some of our some of our industries have been entirely captured, regulatory capture, right? Pharmaceutical, defense industry, entirely captured. Uh, the homeless industrial complex, dang Phil, Sherfills have captured in Seattle, Florida, and San Francisco, or not Florida, uh, Minnesota and San Francisco, you know what I mean? Totally captured industries. So exposure of it is really all you can do, right? These corrupt politicians that you honestly look at and go, how could you, how could you imagine all the politicians that are all in on the double tap hoax that you're you need to be taking these guys as prisoners of war. Why are we blowing up boats and not interdicting them? When I hear the Venezuelan guys say there's people in your country that are paid by the cartels, I have this vision of this short, curly-haired optometrist named Rand Paul. It makes no sense why he's against this. I understand he's a libertarian, but he knows interdiction doesn't work. He knows it doesn't work. He knows that these we're at war with these guys, he knows they're killing Kentuckians, right? So why is he pulling the, you know, I'm just against war generally card? Is it his shtick? Could be. He has historically been a long anti-war advocate, but sometimes you start asking these guys, do you ever defend your nation? You know what I mean? Or are you just kind of a roll over until it's over kind of guy?

SPEAKER_16: 38:58

Or can we get straight to the point?

SPEAKER_13: 38:59

Are you on their payroll? Are you on their payroll? Yeah, it really makes you wonder. Now, when it comes to the Somalis up in Minnesota, apparently their attorney general was on the payroll.

SPEAKER_11: 39:20

In those recordings, the attorney general.

SPEAKER_26: 39:24

Stage your point of order. It is the policy and the amendment. Representative Niska.

SPEAKER_11: 39:37

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. The attorney general was asked in those recordings to use his authority to protect businesses under investigation for wrongdoing. And rather than distance himself or remain neutral to allow the legal process to unfold, he responded in those recordings, of course. I'm here to help. Mr.

SPEAKER_28: 39:54

Speaker, point of parliamentary inquiry.

SPEAKER_30: 39:58

State your point of parliamentary inquiry.

SPEAKER_28: 40:00

Mr. Speaker, there was a point of order, and I didn't hear a ruling or any resolution of the point of order. Was there a resolution to it?

SPEAKER_30: 40:10

I'll remind the body that there was no ruling made by the speaker as to the point of order that was just stated. Representative Niskan.

SPEAKER_11: 40:19

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Construction. The attorney general in those recordings uh even urged the individuals, let's go fight these people. He was offered campaign contributions during that meeting, uh, contributions that he later accepted.

SPEAKER_13: 40:34

Okay, there you go. So you got Keith Ellison, the guy who holds up the Antifa book. It's just an idea, right? In Minnesota, who's on tape accepting bribes. Right? Now, this Somali stuff is just blowing up. Uh Somali warlord received$28 million in Maine care funds while building a paramilitary force. Abdullah Ali was paid over$28 million from Maine care, Maine's version of Medicaid, funded jointly by the state and federal government while running for president of Jubaland and funding a paramilitary paramilitary force in Somalia. Ali used the funds raised in the U.S. to purchase weapons, munitions, and supplies for his fighters. That's why your proctology exam was so expensive. They were really screwing you up the ass, right? Man, man, I thought we were talking about Minnesota. You know who's next on the list? Ohio. Right? If there's a Somali in your neighborhood, check their financials.

SPEAKER_16: 41:34

Man.

SPEAKER_13: 41:35

These guys didn't bring wealth over from them with from Somalia. If you've got a Somalian that's first generation here driving a BMW or something like that, check his Snap card. You know what I mean? This is wild what's going on here. Now, uh Tom Emmer, is that right? Tom, yeah, Tom Emmer from Minnesota, he railed on Governor Waltz.

SPEAKER_21: 41:57

I'm just grateful that you're reporting it. And the reason that it's getting reported is because Donald Trump, President Trump, finally made this a national issue when he sent out a truth a couple weeks ago. We've been trying to sound the alarm in Minnesota for more than three years. Everybody's focused right now on a billion dollars plus in fraud that has been stolen from Minnesota taxpayers, and a lot of it allegedly has been sent to Al Shabaab back in Somalia, a uh a terrorist group. But you know what we're not talking about today? Do you realize that uh, you know, it's not that all Somalis are committing crimes, but 80% of the crimes being committed in the Twin Cities in Minnesota are being committed by Somalis. Huh? Huh. 80% of the crime are being committed by one group.

SPEAKER_13: 42:42

But don't talk about it.

SPEAKER_21: 42:44

It's just individual choices. And by the way, uh the FBI has been investigating Somali gangs in the Twin Cities now for months. Uh I am grateful that President Trump has raised this to a national issue. This is uh it's it's kind of like uh a small version of what Joe Biden and Kamala Harris were doing at our southern border for the last four years. Tim Wallace is as corrupt as the and incompetent as the day uh is long. You got a billion dollars of fraud. It's you got the largest fraud case in the pandemic fraud case in the country.

SPEAKER_13: 43:18

I'm just he went on Fox News and had a similar tirade. Now, you know, Ilan Omar, she's fighting back. She just cannot believe how stupid Americans are. These people are just idiots.

SPEAKER_23: 43:30

I I really, you know, I'm I'm at the point where it's become really hard to have an intellectual debate with any of these people because the level of stupidity that they are displaying every single day is frankly embarrassing, not just um in in Congress, but as as Americans. And the fact that these people are allowed to say uh just the the most ridiculous things uh tells you that the the dumbing of the United States has arrived because how else do we get Trump presidency again?

SPEAKER_16: 44:02

What is a video?

SPEAKER_13: 44:05

Ma'am, ma'am, um ma'am, the Somalis are stealing from us blind. Well, you guys are dumb. Well, how do you think we ended up with a Trump president? Well, because he spoke out against people just like you.

SPEAKER_22: 44:20

They have a representative, Ilhan Omar, who they say married her brother. It's true, it's a fraud. She tries to deny it now, but you can't really deny it because you know, it just happened. She shouldn't be allowed to be a congresswoman, and I'm sure people are looking at that, and she should be throwing the hell out of our country. And most of those people, they have destroyed Minnesota. Okay. Minnesota, you have an incompetent governor, you have a crooked governor, he's crooked as hell, but he's incompetent. Uh Waltz is he should be ashamed. That beautiful land, that beautiful state. And all they do is complain, complain, complain. You have her, she's always talking about the constitution provides me with uh go back to your own country and figure out your constitution. All she does is complain about this country, and without this country, she would not be in very good shape, she probably wouldn't be alive right now. So Somalia is considered by many to be the worst country on earth. I don't know. I've never I haven't been there, I won't be there anytime soon. I hope. But uh what Somalia, what the Somalian people have done to Minnesota is is not even believable. It's not even believable. And a lot of it starts with the governor.

SPEAKER_13: 45:42

A lot of it starts with the governor, and enabled by people like Elon Omar, and frankly, Tom Emmer, he doesn't get a pass in this either, for sure. Now, Elon Elon Omar is sweating bullets. So she this is yesterday. She was on CNN, and uh turns out she's aware that the investigation is expanding. First of all, federal prosecutors say 59 people body language is critical on this one, micro expressions, smile on her face, the insincerity of how she says this stuff.

SPEAKER_04: 46:11

Okay, pay attention to investigating these schemes so far. Americans at large stole tens of billions of forms of aid during the pandemic all over the country. Minnesota's fraud scandal stands out, according to federal auditors. What are you hearing from investigators right now?

SPEAKER_23: 46:27

Well, I've been following the cases uh closely as they've gone through um the courts, uh, and we know that there are more indictments um possibly coming. Uh, I think that number might go up to 73, is what I'm hearing.

SPEAKER_04: 46:40

Okay. Can you shed any light on why uh the fraud got so out of control in Minnesota?

SPEAKER_13: 46:48

I think what happened um is that you know, when when you I think we brought a bunch of degenerate low IQ people, statistically and factually, from Somalia that had no example of a properly run country, and we dumped them into Minnesota, and then we enabled them to rob us blind.

SPEAKER_23: 47:05

I that's then we gave a bunch of money. You're oftentimes relying on third parties to be able to facilitate. And I just think that a lot of the COVID um programs that were set up, uh, they were set up so quickly that a lot of the guardrails did not get created.

SPEAKER_04: 47:26

Now, obviously, whatever the ethnic group, the actions of a few dozen should not impugn an entire community of thousands of people.

SPEAKER_13: 47:34

Not when you're stealing billions of dollars and the whole community's benefiting. That's not how it works. Pony Boy goes, I love Miller. Biden's ruled on camera. Yeah, he did. Uh they're talking about a stutter. Keyword says he allowed. What does she mean that they're allowed to say anything they want? She's talking about Ilan Omar. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, you're supposed to be able to say anything you want. I don't know. Okay, so we played a little clip yesterday where on the PBD broadcast the guy was revealing, like, hey, that guy that went and shot the uh the uh House Speaker Melissa Holman Hortman, the Speaker Emeritus. You know, remember that there was only one Democrat that voted to end healthcare for illegals in Tim Waltz's run, Minnesota? Who was it? Melissa Hortman. She was murdered by Vance Bolt uh Boltzler, who claimed Waltz also wanted him to kill Amy Klobuchark. Anyways, Jonathan Turley kind of seconds that it's like, you know, has anybody looked into this whole Tim Waltz told me to do it allegation? I don't think so. Oh yeah. Now, with the Somalis who've been allowed to come into this country just almost unvetted, right? We also find out that Afghanistans came in unvetted, but some of them were actually vetted and then waived in.

SPEAKER_29: 48:44

It turns out that the Biden administration very quietly created an exemption for many low-level right for this Taliban. You heard me right. Taliban civil servants were allowed to come to the United States, hundreds of them. This news comes in the wake of the Afghan national was charged with attacking the two National Guardsmen and killing one of them in DC, right near the White House. So how did it work? Well, the Biden-led Department of Homeland Security and the State Department announced in June 2022 that it had put together new exemptions for purportedly vetted applicants who would otherwise be blocked from the United States, including some former Taliban government workers. I'm not making this up. It's in writing. The policy allowed hundreds of Afghans to come to the United States when they would have otherwise been barred due to terrorism-related ties. Inadmissible standards. They were set aside so that these uh folks could come into the country. Another giant glaring security role. Now, the exemptions were for Afghans who had worked as civil servants under the Taliban both before 9-11 and after August 2021, when the government fell and the Taliban retook control of the Afghanistan country and its government.

SPEAKER_13: 49:54

So, yeah, you know, we just waved them in. It's like uh another thing, not only did we have the pipe bomber arrested about 90, about 100 and you know, what is it, 115, 20 minutes ago, something like that. Still don't see his name popping up on anything trending. But today we are also expecting a new Letitia James indictment.

SPEAKER_10: 50:14

Again, we just got some news, and you probably haven't seen this because it just broke. Um our own colleague, Kendalaney and MS Now, that uh Tish James is going to be re-indicted tomorrow, it appears, in Norfolk, Virginia. With an assistant U.S. attorney, I think, being brought in from Missouri to handle the charges. Um, her indictment, of course, was thrown out because the judge found that Lindsay Halligan, uh, who had been brought in specifically to indict her in Comey, uh, was not actually constitutionally appointed, and therefore the indictment was thrown out, although without prejudice, so they can re-indict. Um, this appears to be one of the areas that they there is quite a bit of focus, which is to get revenge on who they ever they want to get.

SPEAKER_13: 50:53

Oh, that's what it's all about. Let's get revenge on whoever they want. Now, they did have to bring an attorney out of Missouri to come do this. Missouri is the center of the conservative universe. A lot of people think it's Florida. It's not Florida, it's Missouri. Your most populist, solid conservative attorneys, the think tank of conservatism, true MAGA conservatism, is clearly centered right on Missouri. Schmidt, Hawley, two of the best populist MAGA uh senators there are, they are not acolytes or sycophants of Donald Trump. They're legit populists, right? Um, Andrew Bailey, who's now the deputy director of the FBI, co-director or whatever, alongside Bon Gino, he was the attorney general there. Schmidt was the attorney general there prior. Ed Martin's coming out of there, Mark McCloskey. You've got a whole bunch of them. It is, it is like, you know, the Republican mafia runs Missouri. You know, it's not it's not being run by Democrats. So uh Missouri is a very big powerhouse state when it comes to American populism. Florida has a lot of good conservatives coming out of it too, but they're kind of that boomer conservative. Like, I don't care if you're gay, stay off my lawn and keep my home equity intact. Missouri is a little bit more like, hey, let's go to church this Sunday, you know.

SPEAKER_16: 52:05

I always picture Florida as a bunch of retired New Yorkers that are just looking for a tax shelter.

SPEAKER_13: 52:11

There's a lot of that. There's a lot of Cubans. Now, again, Florida's a very red state right now. It's no risk of flipping blue in the next cycle or two, right? And neither is Missouri, really. But Missouri is that homegrown farmer populist type of conservatism, right? The true peasants, I would look at it. I look at Florida as those are economic conservatives, you know, like you said, avoiding taxes in New York, moving down to Florida, that kind of stuff. Um, one of the things Donald Trump did yesterday was he pardoned Representative Henry uh Kohler, C-U-E-L-L-A-R. I'm not exactly sure how to pronounce his name. So he was indicted under the Obama administration. He stood up against the open borders and he's like, I'm from Texas, we got to close our borders. This is not good. Almost immediately, he was indicted for um allegedly accepting roughly 600,000 in bribes from Azur Bajani Energy Company and a Mexican bank. Right. So the Obama administration came after him. He was getting closer and closer to his trial. He was one of the three Democrats that was currently under indictment. Well, Trump put out a couple truth socials and he's like, listen, he stood up against his party, Biden administration targeted him, and so he pardoned him kind of suddenly. Okay. And he posted a letter that Kohler's children sent to him basically saying, look, Biden weaponized the DOJ against our dad. I know he's a Democrat, but it's because he stood up against the open border stuff. Well, this pardon came down, and all of a sudden everybody's like, What?

SPEAKER_06: 53:39

Do you agree with the president that the Biden administration targeted you on purpose with these parties? Absolutely.

SPEAKER_24: 53:44

Uh absolutely. You know, we looked up how many times I got on national TV and national media. It was over 150 times. So I was very critical of the administration, the Biden administration. I tried very hard to get them to understand the border. I lived there, uh, they just wouldn't uh take it. And after that, I started criticizing them over 150 times national media, doesn't include the local media. The timing uh of this was very suspect. Uh, you know, uh 40 days before an election. Uh if you recall, I was having that uh uh primary race where they spent$20 million against me. Uh and uh more things that we'll talk about that is makes it very, very suspect.

SPEAKER_13: 54:31

Yeah, they targeted their own. How do you think they get them to all vote in a block? It's because if you step out of line even a little bit, you could be targeted by a weaponized DOJ. And then I'm sure he was dealing with all kinds of shenanigans. Right here locally, you run for office, you get bullet casings in your mailbox. You know, and if they're doing that locally, imagine what they're doing at the national level, right? Tar targeting him. Now, I don't know if he took a bribe or not, but it sounds like it's standard practice in DC. You know what I mean? It sounds like it's a target-rich environment for bribe takers. Right. So I don't know. He was on with Brett Bear further explaining himself. I would not be surprised if this guy ends up flipping parties. Wouldn't surprise me one bit at this stage. Now, did Trump I don't from what I understand, there was zero communication between him and the White House. He wasn't asking for a pardon or commutation or anything. It was kind of petitioned on by his children and other people.

SPEAKER_24: 55:21

But either way, you can see he feels a lot lighter right now. Look, I'm a conservative Democrat and I work across the lines, and I'll I want to see the president succeed, President Trump. Uh, and it's good for the for the country, and I will work with anybody. Now, we might have some differences, but but if I can work with them, I will work with President Trump. But you're gonna file as a Democrat in that district.

SPEAKER_17: 55:46

That is correct.

SPEAKER_24: 55:47

And and I and as I told some of my Republican friends, I think I vote better than some of the Republicans in the caucus. But you do want the Democrats to win the majority.

SPEAKER_17: 55:59

Oh yes.

SPEAKER_13: 56:00

Oh uh, maybe not. I might flip if they win the majority. Maybe the red Times he knows.

SPEAKER_24: 56:07

He knows how dirty his party is.

SPEAKER_13: 56:09

Yeah, he knows.

SPEAKER_17: 56:15

Do you think the president expects something from this? You know, for the people who say there has to be some quid pro quo, there has to be something. Like he expects a vote, he expects a change in party, something happened. That's what the critics out there would look at this and say, Look, of course, that's what the critics are gonna say. Yeah.

SPEAKER_24: 56:32

Do you think you expects something? No, look, you know, the the president, look, I I really felt for him on some of the charges they filed against him. I think it was very unfair. Anyone that goes through this weaponization like they did on President Trump and certainly on myself, uh, you know, I don't want to wish anybody to go through this type of weaponization.

SPEAKER_17: 56:54

You had problems with your Democratic colleagues on the issue of immigration numerous times and you fought that. And I will still probably. But how do you think your Democratic colleagues are gonna accept this, talk about this? You heard a couple of them there.

SPEAKER_24: 57:06

Well, you know, uh I I think uh Hakeem uh uh you know was was fine. Uh Lloyd Doggett, I love Lloyd Doggett, but Lloyd Doggett is Lloyd Doggett. Uh and uh and that's all I gotta say about Lloyd Doggett. We had differences uh before. Uh too bad he didn't say anything nice uh about it. Uh but uh but again, look, the the liberal democrats are still gonna have a problem with me because they, you know, some of them don't believe in bipartisanship. I I work with Republicans. In fact, in my elections, the reason I win is because I get the independents and I get the modern Republicans a crossover, and I will get that again.

SPEAKER_17: 57:44

But just two more things. One is if you want the Democrats to have the majority, you know that the Democrats really will try to push back and overturn a lot of the president's policies.

SPEAKER_24: 57:56

Well, you know, it depends. You know, there are some things uh that I agree with the president. Like, for example, if you want to deport uh criminals, I'm with you. I'll stand with you. I uh I support detention bets and all that. Uh but you know, issues like terrorists, I think we need to be a little careful and review certain things. So there'll be some things that I have supported the administration on. Uh and uh, you know, it just depends. I don't want to go through a laundry of things, it just depends on the issue on the case.

SPEAKER_13: 58:28

Pony boy, I'm curious what you think about this guy, right? He's he's I don't know if he's close to your district or not, Texas is a big place. Yeah, but what do you think about him, right? He's a he's a Hispanic American.

SPEAKER_16: 58:40

He's a conservative Democrat. How many of those are there out there?

SPEAKER_13: 58:44

There used to be a lot of them, right? There used to be a lot of them. I used to consider myself a conservative Democrat. I mean, like, truly, truly, like I don't.

SPEAKER_16: 58:53

But how many are left?

SPEAKER_13: 58:55

It's so difficult because you say Democrat and you associate, you know, whatever now. But 20 years ago when I was in college, you what you wanted me to get on board with John McCain? You know, gone, man. Like, no, I'm not doing that. Hope and change, hope and change. You know, we all have to learn a lesson from time to time. So it sounds to me like he's basically saying, I'm gonna cross over the aisle, I'm just gonna keep the D in front of my name. Well, he's wearing the remote. He's gonna have to probably have a better voting record with Donald Trump than Thomas Massey.

SPEAKER_17: 59:20

Yeah. You know how this process usually has worked, that there's a long process, there's a a pardon system, there's a a group that weighs in on it. Um how did this think? How do you think, do you think there was a process here, or do you think that that the president he obviously has the constitutional authority, but people who question the process?

SPEAKER_24: 59:43

Look, I'm not gonna second guess the precedent except to say to the president, President Trump, thank you.

SPEAKER_17: 59:48

Yeah, that's the message.

SPEAKER_13: 59:50

That's it. That's all you need. Thank you. Yeah, thank you, thank you. There was an injustice done, even if there was a real crime. This is one of the things I think Nietzsche said. He said the criminal, the Criminal cannot see the gravity of his crime because he's been through the system. Like everything that the criminal does to society, the system does in spades back to them. Right. They can't they cannot feel bad for their crime because they can't get over feeling bad for what's being done for them, done to them. You know, now there's some truth to that. Again, I don't disagree with the concept of jails and prisons at all. Okay, uh, so that that was pretty brilliant. We're gonna listen to one last thing on this topic. This is Stephen Miller, who is our black pundit who speaks to the sports world. This guy is extremely influential in the black community. Uh, when I was in prison, the blacks, the blacks would watch this guy's show on the different sports channels. I don't even know. Is he an ESPN guy? I don't even know where he where he calls home. Now he's got straight shooter with Stephen A. Smith with the American flag thing with the thing. He's clearly getting ready for some kind of political run. And he's he's found a lot of traction when he makes political commentary in addition to his sports commentary. Well, he is commenting on this pardon, and he's like, Trump is smart.

SPEAKER_03: 1:01:01

Democrats look when they now try to attack Trump because they say he pays no attention to that. How do they look now when they say he doesn't provide leadership? How do they say, how do they sound now when they accuse him of lawlessness?

SPEAKER_13: 1:01:19

I mean, at some point, what's significant about this list, if you're a politician and you're getting laced up by what you believe is a corrupt FBI or a corrupt situation, because he pardoned George Santos, he's not even on this list, right?

SPEAKER_16: 1:01:33

Oh, yeah, he is, he's right there.

SPEAKER_13: 1:01:34

Did I miss Oh, I I'm sorry, I missed it. Right. Trump's got your back. Show some loyalty, break with your party, Trump's got your back.

SPEAKER_16: 1:01:44

Yeah, right.

SPEAKER_13: 1:01:44

That that is a huge him pardoning this guy creates a riff in the party because this guy's got at least one loyalty to Trump. Unlikely to impeach. You know what I mean? If that's the political game you play, so he took a bribe or didn't take a bribe, who cares? I mean, we care, but who cares? So it's pretty significant that Trump's doing this. Biden didn't do this, they let their guys rot. You know who's still sitting in jail? Menendez and his wife.

SPEAKER_16: 1:02:10

I'm noticing one name up there, uh, Rod Black. Yeah. Where's that? Where how do I recognize that name?

SPEAKER_13: 1:02:19

He was the governor of Illinois. Uh he was on the uh apprentice with Trump. Uh but he spent nine, nine or what, ten years in prison on a 20-year sentence. Yeah. Trump pardon. He's the one who came out and said, I'm a Trumplican. Or a Trumpan, or he says I'm a Trump Trump Trump uh Trumprat, Trump crat or whatever.

SPEAKER_03: 1:02:41

The man credit. He's shrewd as hell. He really is. I mean, he is giving the Democratic Party lessons. Lessons. I mean, school is incessant on how to manipulate minds and coax folks into thinking along the lines of his way of thinking. You can't sit up there and talk about how everything is partisan when the man sits up there and lets you off the hook and you're on the opposite party. Now, granted, that same representative fuller was the same guy that spoke out against the Biden administration when it came to immigration issues and our borders. So, again, that falls in line with Trump, and we get that part, but he's still a Democrat. He's still somebody if we're watching and paying attention to the politics that have been pervasive in our country over the last decade or so. Everybody's voting along party lines.

SPEAKER_13: 1:03:38

Now all of He has the Capitol building in his background and not a basketball court.

SPEAKER_03: 1:03:43

All of a sudden, when that man has to stand up and vote on certain issues, are you sure he's not gonna vote in favor of Trump? If he wins re-election and he ends up back to being a representative, are you sure he's gonna side with the Democrats? How much support do you need? What have I been saying about the Democrats? Get away from the far left, move towards the center. Trump beat him to it. That's what he's doing. That's what he's doing. It's brilliant. Absolutely, positively brilliant politics.

SPEAKER_13: 1:04:23

Nothing compares. Nothing compares. Trump's taking the middle. He's gonna take these conservative Democrats because they're gonna be like, look, I'm not that. I'm not Mandami. I'm not that. I'm a conservative Democrat, right? I mean, I'll let you still have your abortion, but let's close that border. It's gonna be interesting. All right, guys, it's time for us to jump over in private here for a second. Hopefully, by the time we're in private, I'm gonna keep checking on the scaffold, or not the scaffold man, the uh the pipe bomber. He should be arraigned any minute now. Um, sounds like it's a man from New York. Apparently, they had this guy pinned a couple years ago and then they let him off the hook and now they're back around. It's got um anarchist ideologies. I don't know. We'll see. Hmm. I'm highly concerned. Highly concerned this is a narrative. Let's get an Antifa guy to have dropped the pipe bomb. Very well could be true, right? But how do you get 90 something percent gate analysis and get the Intel people to be like, yeah, that's it. This the coincidence, it's almost too much.

SPEAKER_16: 1:05:22

Well, I remember the very first split second I saw the video, I was like, that's gotta be a woman.

SPEAKER_13: 1:05:27

Walking with the yeah, yeah. We'll find out, we'll see if they admit to it or whatever the case is. But I unfortunately, unfortunately, my trust in the system is so low. Like, I'm not fully convinced Tyler Robinson killed Charlie Kirk. And I'm not, and I don't follow Candace Owens or any of those people. I'm just like, dude, there's too much. That's just too funny, it's too hairy, you know. And of course, in the judicial process, you don't get a lot of evidence put out until trial, allegedly, right? Usually stuff gets leaked out when you're dead to rights.

SPEAKER_16: 1:05:58

Well, I've never seen so many crime scenes get so much attention and reconstruction so fast. I just couldn't believe my eyes.

SPEAKER_13: 1:06:06

And it's and it's the same thing that happened with Tyler with uh crooks when he shot Trump. They're up there pre- it's like this doesn't happen. And the FBI doesn't do that, they hire third parties. Why is the FBI agent up there doing that? Because he's under the control of the agency, he's not gonna, you know, say, oh, I was there was more bullet casings than they counted, or you know, there's not gonna be any of that. So it is very suspicious. Here we are. We wait. I'm glad I got my pardon. It's over for me. I just couldn't sit back and watch. All right, so we're gonna be jumping over to the private, and we're gonna be talking, we are gonna be talking more G6. We've got some statements by Donald Trump, and uh hopefully by the end we are going to know who the pipe bomber is. If not, we'll definitely know tomorrow. One last thing before we go, Ron. One last thing.

SPEAKER_16: 1:06:47

Also, please chat in the premium. We want to understand what the experience is like for you.

SPEAKER_13: 1:06:52

Yes, if you're sticking around on premium, let us know you're in there. That'll also let us know kind of who's sticking around, right? Right, because usually in the by the time we get to you know, toward the end of the show, a lot of you guys are you know doing your thing or whatever. Yep. So, anyways, uh, we'd appreciate that. Last thing before we go, Donald Trump yesterday got rid of all of Biden's green deal stuff for car regulations for exhaust standards and things like that. And he also opened the door for companies like Honda and Toyota that make all these cool cars overseas. You don't really travel overseas very often. No, but when you go overseas, you'll see these cars, you're like, Man, I wish we had that there, like small trucks, sometimes big trucks, diesel Toyotas, like all these high-lexes. Yeah, all these cool rigs. And Donald Trump's like, why can't we have those here? Well, because we don't allow them here.

SPEAKER_22: 1:07:36

He's like, I'll fix that. The other things we're doing are separate from this meeting, but I think everybody would agree with it. Uh, if you go to Japan, where I just left, and if you go to South Korea and Malaysia and other countries, they have a very small car, sort of like the Beetle used to be with the Volkswagen. They're very small, they're really cute. And I said, How would that do in this country? And everyone seems to think good, but you're not allowed to build them. And I've authorized the secretary to immediately approve the production of those cars. So you'll be able to buy they really are they're actually some of them are really beautiful, actually. If you take a look, uh Honda, uh uh some of the Japanese companies do a beautiful job, but we're not allowed to make them in this country. And I think uh you're gonna do very well with those cars. So we're gonna approve those cars. Would you like to say something about that?

SPEAKER_13: 1:08:31

We're not just about the other things we're doing, etc. So that's great. That's actually like a big deal. You want to talk about freedom of choice? You can have any car you want, just build it here. Oh, that's so much better than the regulations of size and everything. So that's pretty awesome. Uh, basically, car manufacturers are gonna be able to make cars that they believe they can sell. There's no longer any fuel standards, consumption standards, or anything like that. People are not attracted to Hallelujah. Yeah, people don't want vehicles that blow off a lot of stinky smoke and stuff like that. The market won't support it, right? But what the market will support is very high gas mileage vehicles, like these little cars you're talking about. They get like 80 miles to the gallon, and they're not hybrids.

SPEAKER_16: 1:09:07

I'm wondering if the uh problem has been that there's uh these cars are probably very light, they probably have problems with safety standards. They probably, you know, the current safety standards that we're they're forced to build to.

SPEAKER_13: 1:09:20

Uh it's possible, but they allow them in Europe and they have even higher safety standards there. So these things are basically airbags. Okay, when you get in, like I think that might have been the reason back in the Geo Metro days, but I think at this point, like smart cars are considered, you know, they they meet crash test standards. Sure. I don't think they're waiving those standards. It's almost exclusively dealing with the emission standards, okay, which causes them to be heavier cars, more back pressure on the engines, more fuel consumption to get the lower emission standard, so it's counterproductive. You know what I mean? I think they're basically saying just make a lightweight, fuel efficient car. So that'll be great. All right, now we are jumping over into private. Okay, while we're doing this, I just want to I gotta I gotta know. Is this guy did yet? Scroll through here. I don't see anything. Gosh, it's amazing. Donald Trump was asked, this is a while back when he was um still running for president. He was talking about J6, and you know, there's a couple figures that he'd like to know about.

SPEAKER_22: 1:10:19

Whatever happened to Scaffold Man, you know who scaffold man was? He stood on a scaffold telling everybody to go, and nothing happened to him. Whatever happened to Ray Epps? Now, I don't know anything about Ray Epps, but it was sort of strange the way he was talking. Where is he? What happened to him? Babe, whatever happened to Scaffold Man? Yeah, what happened to him?

SPEAKER_13: 1:10:36

So, people that aren't familiar with Ray Epps, let me just kind of briefly Oh boy. Um the the the thing about Ray Epps, he shows up on January 5th and he's filmed with a lot of other influencers. There's Baked Alaska, there's a couple other people that are all in Alex Jones, they're all concentrated somewhere doing a late night January 5th rally. And Ray Epps is filmed in multiple spots going around tomorrow. We have to go in the Capitol. We have to go in the Capitol tomorrow. That's where our problems are. We have to go in the Capitol. And Baked Alaska, who later did get charged with misdemeanor charges and spent 60 days in prison, was like, he started saying, What are you, a fed? Fed, fed, fed? Got the whole crowd to chant fed.

SPEAKER_18: 1:11:17

Ray Epps is sitting there.

SPEAKER_13: 1:11:18

No, you gotta go in the Capitol, right? And he sticks with it. The next morning, Ray Epps does not go to Donald Trump's speech. He shows up walking around the Capitol. A couple things are going on. The pipe bombs get discovered. That causes police and first responders to kind of head towards the pipe bomb scene. Second, I mean, minutes after that happened, Ray Epps, Ryan Samsel, and James Grant. I know James Grant. I was in prison with him. Okay. On the left hand side of Ray Epps, on the right hand side is Ryan Samsel. Ryan Samsel has a previous criminal record. Okay. He's a little bit of, he's one of those rambunctious guys. And if he was here with me, I would hope he would admit that. Okay. He tends to be a little bit on the say it with my fist kind of idea. Okay.

SPEAKER_19: 1:12:03

Okay.

SPEAKER_13: 1:12:03

So Ryan Samsel gets whispered into the ear. Ray Epps whispers into his ear and tells him something. There's been allegedly he said what he said. I don't know what he said, but right when he says it, Ryan Samsel then pushes the gate, which pushes into a female officer, and then he kind of collapses on the female officer. James Grant comes over and he tries to pull Samsell off the female officer. I don't think there was punching necessarily, but you know, there was a pinning down, pulls her off, and then that kind of, you know, stops, and then they continue up to the building. And at that point, they kind of separate. Ray Epps, after that happens, right before this happen is happening, as it's happening, there is somebody pulling up the snow fencing around the Capitol. The snow fencing was there because it was a construction site for the scaffolding. It wasn't barricades. It was literally plastic green snow fishing on fencing on T-posts. So someone went through and poop, boop, boop, pulled up all the fencing, piled it up. I took a picture of it when I left the Capitol. Go back to the episode from January 8th, 2021. You can see the picture of it. Okay. Ray Eps moves up. Ray Epps then comes around and goes to a different part of the crowd, and there's a sign that they that gets picked up, a big huge, you know, sign, Trump 20 2020 sign or something like that. And they start crowd surfing it up the crowd towards the Capitol building. Ray Epps is touching that sign, pushing it, doing the whole thing. Pretty much everybody who touched that sign got a 111B assault with a deadly weapon charge because the sign was construed as a weapon. However, not Ray Epps. Ray Epps went uncharged. He was on the most wanted list for a moment and then he came off of it. Number 16. Just came off of it. Right. And then about a year later, a year and a half later, when Tucker Carlson starts digging into J6 and he features Ray Epps. Who's this Ray Epps guy? Suddenly they run out and arrest him, and he gets charged with a singular misdemeanor. Now, to my knowledge, not one other January 6er out of the 1,580 of them got charged with one singular misdemeanor charge. He quickly took a plea deal. All within a matter of months, he took a plea deal. He had James Bosberg as his judge. Oh yeah, it's James Boseberg, who then says, You've suffered enough. Your life has been exposed. Hello, all of us have had our life's exposed. Sentences him to one year unsupervised probation. Man, I wish I could have been Ray Epps that day. Holy cow, one year supervised probation. Yet when you look and stack up what he did, I said one, two, three, go and push the gate. He whispered in Samson's ear, co-defended on his left, co-defended on his right, pushed the gate, except Ray Epps didn't get charged. They got charged on the same indictment, but Ray Epps, the guy who actually said the you know, go word unindicted for a long time, never indicted on that stuff.

SPEAKER_16: 1:14:50

So and then he disappeared from the FBI's most wanted list.

SPEAKER_13: 1:14:54

That tells you everything you need to know. But again, now we're gonna go watch this pipe bomber thing, and it's like, you know, also disappeared from the FBI's radar suspiciously. So we'll see. Uh another thing, Donald Trump in one of his rallies was talking about, J6, was asking who are the informants in the crowd?

SPEAKER_22: 1:15:11

Exactly. How many of those present at the Capitol complex on January 6th were FBI confidential informants, agents or otherwise working directly or indirectly with an agency of the United States government? People want to hear this. How about the one guy? Go in, go in, get in there, everybody. Get in there, go, go, go. Nothing happens to him. Did any of these individuals play any role whatsoever improving or facilitating the events at the Capitol? Exactly. How many of those present at the I want to know?

SPEAKER_13: 1:15:47

And the number went from 20 something, and now we're up to 275 agents got sent into the crowd. It's a pretty big deal. I am super curious. I just, there's nothing new on this pipe bomber thing. It's just man in custody, uh anti uh anarchist ideology. Um, let's see. The suspect in custody is Brian Cole of Northern Virginia. How fast can we achieve uh archive all of his social media and internet presence? Ready, set, go. Uh let's see here. We've got a we do have a we do have a news blurb on it. So let's see, this is the first time we're hearing.

SPEAKER_02: 1:16:24

Great hoodie. And he's been identified uh as a guy named Brian Cole, C O L E. Video footage released by the FBI showed the unidentified person placing the pipe bombs near the two headquarters more than 16 hours before law enforcement even found them. He was wearing a gray hoodie, Nike Air Max speed turf sneakers, a mask, glasses, and gloves. But his identity had long been unknown. They finally made an arrest. Um and look, a guy, I don't know who Brian Cole is, I guarantee you. Keyboard warriors are searching him right now. Brian Cole is said to be the name of the man arrested. And he's been identified as Brian Cole.

SPEAKER_13: 1:17:20

Well, we know. Brian Cole! I don't feel good about this.

SPEAKER_16: 1:17:25

I don't know either.

SPEAKER_13: 1:17:26

I don't feel good about this. I feel like um yeah, I don't feel good about it.

SPEAKER_16: 1:17:34

I guess we'll just wait and see what gets manufactured.

SPEAKER_13: 1:17:37

Yeah, I guess we'll wait and see. Um he's been ID'd as Brian Cole, and then he's an anarchist. Think Antifa. I'm also hearing there will be a press conference at 1 p.m. Eastern, so that's 11 our time. I'll be watching that. I'm sure a lot of January 6ers will be watching that. You know, no pipe bomb. I s no pipe bomb. I spend January 6th sitting on the opposite side of the reflecting pool from the Capitol. I would have no reason to walk up on the lawn. And if I would have, I would have walked around and you know, gone to the front and touched the building where it was completely possible. No pipe bomb, no security incident. No security incident. They have they're properly staffed to hold the line, right? Then there's a whole series of cascade, unlocked doors. I mean, everybody was set up that day. Um, I s we'll see. We'll find out. All right, guys. That's it for today. Thank you so much for sticking around. Carlitz, welcome. Thanks for hanging around. Hello, Privates, the Unoffendables. All right, guys, we will talk to you again tomorrow. Bye.

SPEAKER_05: 1:19:03

What do I give them that card? I'm 37. What? I'm 37, I'm not all. But I can't just call you Matt. But if I call Jesus, I'm sorry, you always try to win. Just because some voice has been a little bit of a system.