Somali Fraud, Pipe Bombs, And Power

What happens when the people paid to guard the gate start picking the lock? We dig into a string of stories that reveal how institutions can fail in plain sight: a DEA official charged in a narco-money scheme, a Minnesota fraud scandal ballooning from millions to billions, and a J6 pipe bomb case reigniting old questions about prosecutors, process, and credibility. We connect these dots to the everyday toll—rising prices, higher taxes, and a sense that those who play by the rules keep footing the bill for those who don’t.

We also zoom out to the economy most of us feel in our bones. Remember when a year’s salary could buy a home? We compare 1998’s affordability to today’s rent-on-installments culture, then ask whether Basel III and gold’s reclassification hint at a quiet return to sound money. Along the way, we scrutinize de-banking, why brand “safety” becomes speech control by proxy, and what it means when platforms choose principle over ad dollars.

The border and cartels come into sharp focus as we examine maritime strikes, overdose deaths, and the brutal math of human trafficking. Legal and moral lines collide with real-world urgency: are we making it harder or easier for cartels to profit? We close with the tension at the heart of modern media—can a public square survive if advertisers hold the off switch? It’s a candid, detailed tour through corruption, costs, and the fight to reclaim competence.

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Chapters

• 0:00 Cold Open, Banter, And Setup
• 2:30 DEA Corruption And Narco-Terror Links
• 5:30 Cabinet Vetting And Generational Politics
• 7:15 Minnesota Somali Fraud Scandal Expands
• 12:00 Inflation, Wages, And The “Common Man” Index
• 15:20 Money Flows Overseas And IRS Investigations
• 18:30 HHS Ultimatum To Minnesota Programs
• 22:00 Taxes, Housing, And West Coast Pressures
• 26:30 1998 Affordability Vs 2025 Debt Culture
• 31:00 Gold, Basel III, And Sound Money Signals
• 34:00 De-banking, Compliance, And Social Credit Fears
• 38:30 Sponsor Break: 1775 Coffee
• 40:00 J6 Pipe Bomb Case And Prosecution Concerns
• 45:40 Prosecutorial Misconduct Allegations Recapped
• 51:00 On-The-Ground Reporting And Family Claims
• 55:00 Media Narratives And Identity Spin
• 1:00:30 Big Lies: War, Climate, And Credibility
• 1:06:30 Entrapment Claims And Political Pressure
• 1:10:00 How Minnesota Fraud Worked At Scale
• 1:12:30 Sponsor Break: Controllers Promo
• 1:14:00 Border, Cartels, And Maritime Strikes
• 1:19:00 Taiwan Chips, China’s Fleets, And Risk
• 1:23:30 Trafficked Children And Rescue Efforts
• 1:27:30 Legal Lines: Military Orders And Politics
• 1:33:00 Free Speech, Ads, And Elon’s Stance
• 1:37:00 Closing Riffs And Premium Tease

Transcript

SPEAKER_17: 0:55

You see the peasants in the background with the keys and kings walking around? Where are those people? Where are those people? Good morning, peasants. Welcome to another episode of The Peasants Perspective. Pony Boy's already in the chats. He made it. Ooh, good mor uh morning peasants. Old morning peasants. Good morning, John Tacis. Morning Boy. It was good. Oh, I know how you feel. I feel like every time I put out an X post that gets like major traction, you know, 2,000 plus views. Right. Always a spelling error. Yeah. Always. Always. It's impossible not to get one. And the worst thing is they let you edit for like an hour, assuming no one comments. Right. So the moment you get a comment, you're like, oh, it's gonna go viral. Oh crap! Anyways, there's a movie on Netflix, I think, and I haven't had Netflix subscription for a long time, but it's called The Boys. Might be on Prime. I don't even know where it's at. It's called The Boys. And it's one of these like uh modern-day X-Men. Basically, these people are given mute or get mutant powers from a pharmaceutical drug, but then it also gets in them to where they can pass it on to their posterity. So there's a whole bunch of like genomics and stuff like that going on. Anyways, in the show, these uh hybrids, right? These humans with mutant capabilities are getting in fact, this might even be an X-Men episode, to be completely opposite. Sounds like a Pfizer commercial. It's still overlapped, might be an X-Men, it might be one of the X-Men shows. I can't remember now. But, anyways, uh one of these X-Men has capacities to like make people's brains explode, but otherwise looks completely normal and it's is in politics. So at one point, the government creates the you know regulation of mutants department or whatever, and walking in as the first ever head of the department is a mutant that's a bad that's a bad mutant, right? And it's like, no. Well, that's pretty much how I view reality at this point, right? There's certain things that once you see them, you can't see them. Like, for example, imagine you were tasked with being in charge of the drug enforcement agency. You know, someone who's in who's really tasked by the American people through the office of the presidency, nominated and conf or confirmed by the Senate.

SPEAKER_19: 3:18

Lay down the law.

SPEAKER_17: 3:19

Yeah, to lay down the law to stop drug trafficking. What if they were actually drug trafficking themselves?

SPEAKER_10: 3:34

Paul Campo conspired, allegedly, to launder up to$12 million in drug trafficking proceeds. Campo and an associate by the name of Robert Sensi are accused in the scheme of converting cash into cryptocurrency to buy 220 kilos of Coke worth about five million bucks on the street, and then attempting to launder even more money, almost three-quarters of a million dollars from other drug sales for the Jalisco New Generation Cartel. These two gentlemen have been charged with narco-terrorism conspiracy, conspiracy to distribute narcotics, and as you can well imagine, also with money laundering conspiracy. Campo has pleaded not guilty, and he is in custody tonight. There's a good chance, Jesse, he's not going anywhere anytime soon.

SPEAKER_17: 4:22

Told you so. You know how many guys I know in prison that are like, I know I was buying drugs from the feds.

SPEAKER_16: 4:30

I know what they were dealing with.

SPEAKER_17: 4:31

He's the dude. Dude, that's the guy. That's the guy I talked to. That is hilarious. Uh it's not hilarious, it's tragic. Clearly, that guy does belong in jail. He doesn't need rehab. Okay, he needs some serious help. He made a mistake. A high-ranking official in the DEA in the Obama administration was working directly with the cartels to not only launder money but to actually purchase and distribute drugs. Wow. Is anyone surprised? No, no, not really. So this is Scott Bessant. Speaking of, no, this is Scott Bessant. Who, again, Trump has put together a really dynamite cabinet, and a cabinet, and if for anything else, it's because they've been actually vetted. You know, you've you you let the internet have at these people left and right, and pretty much any skeleton these people have ever had in their closet was brought out during their Senate confirmations. So it feels to me like this cabinet is a little bit bulletproof. Uh cabinets in the past may have gotten a pass. I don't know. Just just based on, you know, what we've seen. It was so interesting. I was in uh one of our 1776 live.us classes on Saturday, and the presenter was saying that Trump's been in office uh his whole adult life, and then someone else got on because members of the community are 26, 27. They're like, Yeah, I mean, I remember, you know, vaguely, like I have a memory of Barack Obama being in office. I'm like, dude, could you imagine your whole adult life basically being the Trump show and all the drama that's happened? It's crazy. I I kind of like became very cognizant of politics really early in life, but my adult life post graduation has been Obama plus, right? So I came into a world that was transitioning, right? And but it was still very much the old world where you know merit mattered, and if you worked hard, you could succeed. That was like really what we were taught. And I found my niche, but a lot of my peers did not. A lot of my peers got caught in that yeah, I went and got my good job, and then it's just been like there's been no white-collar security, there's been no blue-collar security either. You're not upwardly mobile in the trades because you're constantly injecting new immigrants and things like that into the worker work pool. So, anyways, lots of interesting stuff. Scott Bessent went on the news shows this weekend. You know, eight of every weekend there's like the face the nation and all these weekend shows, right? Scott Bessent went on Face the Nation and he was being asked about this Somali scandal up in Minnesota. This thing is breaking open. Like it it starts out as just kind of okay, you know, a couple hundred million dollars. Okay, now we're up to a billion, then we're up to two billion, now we're up to eight billion. Now they're like, it might be like 24 billion dollars that the Somalis have essentially defrauded the taxpayers of Minnesota and the federal government from. It's stunning. So Scott Bessant was talking about this, and probably one of the most iconic lines, something we should have etched into a plaque on the wall is how he finishes up this interview.

SPEAKER_35: 7:38

The Biden administration created the worst inflation in 50 years, and maybe for working Americans, the worst inflation of all time. And we have pulled that number down. That Strategis Research does something called the Common Man Index. Under Biden, the cumulated inflation number uh as measured by CPI is about 20%. Their index showed 35%. This year, for the first time, the common man index is below the inflation index because the basket of goods for working Americans, food, gasoline, rent is coming down. So I I read an essay March 12th, 2024, and it talked about the three eyes: immigration, interest rates, and inflation. Mass infettered immigration depressed wages, caused housing prices to go up. President has closed the border, that is fixed. Interest rates have come down. The bond market just had the best year since 2020, and now we are working on inflation, and I expect inflation to roll down strongly next year. The Biden administration created the worst yeah.

SPEAKER_17: 8:45

I was gonna ask you what the plaque's supposed to say. Here's the one. This is the one that's gonna have the plaque at the end. And again, it's continuing along the same line. So he's talking about, you know, we were handed over the worst inflation, which is gonna become really relevant here in just a second. But this is specifically with the Somali thing.

SPEAKER_03: 9:01

The president told you, though, this week to look into Somalis who, quote, ripped off that state for billions of dollars. He said they contribute nothing. What exactly are you investigating?

SPEAKER_35: 9:11

Well, Margaret, to be clear, the initial fraud that was discovered by the IRS, for which I'm the acting commissioner. It was discovered by IRS Criminal Investigations Unit. This was not an endogenous thing that the state of Minnesota decided we had to go in and clean up the mess for them. And this is part of the continued cleanup. A lot of money has been transferred from the individuals who committed this fraud, including those who donated to the government, governor donated to Representative Omar and donated to A.G. Ellison. Uh, but they've been transferred to something called MBS's. The um and those are track security. What do you mean? Sorry?

SPEAKER_03: 9:55

Transferred to what?

SPEAKER_35: 9:57

These are money, the uh Bureau services, and they are wire transfer organizations that are outside the regulated banking system, and that money has gone overseas, and we are track tracking that the uh both to the Middle East and to Somalia to see what the uses of that have been.

SPEAKER_03: 10:17

Okay, but you have no evidence of that money being used to fuel terrorism at this point, which is what some conservative writers are alleging.

SPEAKER_35: 10:24

That's why it's an investigation. We started it last week. We'll see where it goes. But I I can tell you that you know it's terrible. You know, the Representative Omar tried to downplay it, said, Oh, it it was very the uh you know, it was very tough to know how this money should should be used. You know, she she was gaslighting the American people.

SPEAKER_03: 10:45

Well, we'll talk to her.

SPEAKER_35: 10:46

Yeah, but you know, when you come to this country, you gotta learn which side of the road to drive on, you gotta learn to stop the stop signs, and you gotta learn the uh not to defraud the American people.

SPEAKER_17: 10:56

That's the line right there. When you come to this country, you gotta learn to drive on the right side of the road, stop at the side slides, and not to defraud the American people.

SPEAKER_19: 11:04

I like it. I like it.

SPEAKER_17: 11:06

It should be etched in stone above the United States Treasury and the Department of Immigration, right? As you come across the border on LSI, give me your hungry, you're poor, you're weak, that will drive on the right side of the road, stop the side signs and not defraud the American government. This is such a big deal that even uh Secretary Oz, Mehmet Oz, had to step in and do one of these official health and human service videos talking to the state of Minnesota, giving them a pretty broad, plain open, not just broad, but a plain ultimatum.

SPEAKER_40: 11:38

It's true. A Somali fraud ring in Minnesota stole over a billion dollars from Medicaid. How did this happen? Well, Medicaid programs are run by the states, which in Minnesota means the Tim Wallace administration. Governor Walls and the state's other Democrats rely on Somali votes to get elected. So they decided to look the other way because they were afraid of quote unquote political backlash. Don't take my word for it. That's what a Somali American fraud investigator told the New York Times. When these scammers realized that nobody was guarding the cash register, they went gangbusters. One program designed to provide housing stabilization assistance to patients ballooned to$104 million. When four years ago it was projected to cost only$2.6 million. Some of these taxpayer funds may have even ended up in the hands of a Somalian terrorist group. Scary stuff. When CMS became aware of the housing program situation, Minnesota insisted it could clean up its own mess. A few months ago, it admitted it could not. So we stepped in to shut down the fraud-infested housing initiative. Today we're taking action on more than a dozen other programs, which I've outlined in the post below. Our message to Wallace is clear. Either fix this in 60 days or start looking under your couch for spare change, because we are done putting the bill for your incompetence. This administration will never stop biting to protect the vulnerable Americans who rely on these programs and the taxpayers who fund them. We're going to crush our waste, fraud, and abuse.

SPEAKER_17: 13:10

I'll tell you what, if if right now, if we can take a snapshot at all the things the administration is doing right now in this moment, all the things it's done, settling wars, overseas deals, trade deals, etc. etc. If you can take a snapshot right now and go back in time and it was March 1st, we would have the happiest MAGA contingent on the planet. Right. They've gotten to so many things. Like you're talking about cutting off Medicaid dollars to the state of Minnesota until they fix the fraud. Like it's not just, hey, on the margins. It's like, no, we'll just cut it off completely. Like this is where we wanted to be in March. Okay. So that's a lot of the frustration from the MAGA and the Here in Washington, too. Yeah. A lot and Maine's got their own issues. So this thing's going to metastasize for sure. They're definitely taking a look at all these programs, these social safety net programs that were designed to ensure that everybody could achieve the American dream. And they're going, whoa, whoa, whoa. They're it's actually holding us back because the people who are assertive and go out and try to succeed in the world, they get punished. Their success gets punished. You start getting taxed really early on as a small business owner, right? And where does that money go? Oh, these billion-dollar homeless programs. Then why are there homeless tents out in front of my my bodega? You know what I mean? Like this doesn't make any sense to me.

SPEAKER_19: 14:28

Yes. We just had the biggest tax increase in Washington state history, and now the governor's already saying they're going to be a shortfall, and our quality of life is in the toilet.

SPEAKER_17: 14:38

What is going on? We've had the highest rate of home appreciation in the country. Did you see that chart? No, but I believe it. It was like 800% increase in housing over whatever period of time. But you know, the whole left coast was pretty high, but we were higher than California. We were higher than anywhere else in the country.

SPEAKER_19: 14:56

800% well, people were leaving California, you know. That just puts pressure on the market.

SPEAKER_17: 15:00

We also have really high-paying corporate jobs here. Amazon, uh, Amazon, Microsoft, Boeing, uh, Costco, Starbucks. I mean, there's a lot, and you could for a little while until those guys all leave. Yeah, but a lot of those guys, that's what drove the housing prices high. It was high-quality jobs. Unfortunately, half of them went to H1B uh visa holders. You know, hearkening back to an older time, right? Like I look at this, I'm gonna play this little video here. This is 1998, and it's an AI-generated video, but it's talking about the cost of living in 1998. And this is what so many boomers, and I hate to say this, but this was like the pinnacle of the boomers generation. They've matured in their jobs, they've just hit like stasis, you know, you've got your home, you're built, you've your family's established, it's starting to mature, kids are getting into high school. This harkens back to that moment in time, right? This is the moment that boomers want to return to, and this is what a lot of the younger generation were pitched, and the reality has not has not been.

SPEAKER_19: 15:58

Yeah, before you play this, I'll just say that I grew up, I was I was 12 when reganomics were coming into style. And yeah, I was working on my you know, citizenship and the community merit badge when Ronald Reagan was president.

SPEAKER_17: 16:13

Yeah, so this this right here, this night trickle down economics, this 1998 snapshot for many people is like the pinnacle of Americana, right? We've entered the computer age, the information age is around there, people still read books, you know. Our public education is kind of at its pinnacle. We haven't gone to war in the Middle East, you can still get right onto an airplane without taking off your shoes.

SPEAKER_19: 16:36

The internet's still pretty new.

SPEAKER_17: 16:37

Yeah, it's all about for kids, it's just cheat codes like pornography hasn't become a thing yet. This is 1998.

SPEAKER_20: 16:43

Dude, it's 1998, and a good house costs about$125,000. A lot of people can actually afford their own place. A new family car costs less than$20,000, and most families can easily swing a new car. Gas is about a dollar or oh three cents a gallon. We drive to go on vacation or weekend trips all the time without even worrying about the price of gas. A loaf of bread costs about 85 cents, which is super cheap for every family. Rent for an apartment is about$650 a month. We can find our own place and not have to share with anyone else. A Big Mac meal is about$399. Lunch for less than five bucks. Now that's some seriously cheap fast food. A new CD costs about$14. We love going to the record store to buy albums because it's like a cool collection to show off. Grocery bills are about$40 a week. We go to the store, get what we need for the week, and still have some cash left over for snacks. Dude, are you gonna stay in 1998 or face the reality of 2025?

SPEAKER_16: 17:46

What is the reality? 1998.

SPEAKER_17: 17:48

Right. That I remember one time having a conversation with my grandma over the dinner table, and I was struggling to buy housing. I was like 25. And I was still I was actually making good money too, like really good money, but I didn't qualify for a house because of I was making money five flipping houses and I didn't have a job, right? She's like, Well, back when dad and I bought our first house, you know, it was a real stretch too. Our house was 15 grand. That was really expensive then. Well, how much did dad grandpa make at the mill? Well, he made about 45 grand a year. I'm like, What you made more than your house cost? I was like, that's actually that was actually came out of her mouth. I'm like, you know, there's not like a city in the entire country where you can get away from it. Like it was beautiful. Right, I'm telling you, it was a stretch for them, right? But and then you know, they bought a car, it was$5,000. They paid cash. It was such a stretch they had to save up for it because you know, finances.

SPEAKER_19: 18:37

Are you sure he wasn't making$4,500?

SPEAKER_17: 18:39

No, it was like 40. He was an electrician at the mill. Now, of course, this whole industry got devastated just a decade after she told this, you know, was telling me the story about it. And I think they might have bought their house in the 50s or something like that. Either way, he made really good money for what he was doing, right? And he was he had come from he was a post-Korea War vet, had made his way from Arkansas to the Oregon coast, and there was a boom going on.

SPEAKER_19: 19:02

Sounds like he was living a the real American dream.

SPEAKER_17: 19:04

He was, he was living a real American dream in his journals. You know, he went to go visit the Northwest and saw the Coos Bay Bridge and was just thought it was a modern marvel of architecture. He was like, I want to live here. And he did. He bought a house just up the road from the bridge. So he drove over the bridge every day to work. Wow. Okay, so that's the 1998 reality. What's the 2025 reality? Ron, this is gonna work. Well, I can tell you, I really wish that we could go back to 98. Yeah, we all wish we could, and and maybe we're taking steps that direction, honestly. But here's the reality today.

SPEAKER_29: 19:35

Here's how I only pay$400 a month for rent in Los Angeles. Klarna has just rolled out apartment financing. So instead of my rent being sixteen hundred dollars a month for one year, it's gonna be four hundred dollars a month for four years, all with zero percent apparent. You might be thinking, Chase, this isn't smart. It's called investing in yourself because I know in four years' time I will have a bigger portfolio. Out and more money in that town. This system will allow me to enjoy my 20s more. Have fun now, worry later.

SPEAKER_17: 20:06

Do you understand what that was all about? What? So rent in his one-bedroom LA studio room there, as you saw, is sixteen hundred dollars a month. He can't afford that. So what does he do? He finances his rental. Instead of paying$1,600 a month for one year, he's going to pay$400 a month for four years. But he's going to be out of his lease contract in one year. So he's going to continue paying this year's month four years, you know, the delta on this year's rent over the next four years.

SPEAKER_16: 20:37

Oh my gosh. Then what's he gonna do next year? The same thing and rack up another four years? Hopefully he's investing in himself.

SPEAKER_17: 20:46

Oh okay. That is when I talk to people that are younger than me, these are the kind of choices they're making. Do you see why a 50-year mortgage is appealing to some of these guys? Because to them it's about the monthly payment. All right. Well, if I make more money in in three years in a year, then I can I can make, you know, I'll have invested this year in myself. Now for those adults, we're like, dude, a year goes by fast and four years, you know, you're gonna be paying for that first month's rent for four years. Are you kidding me?

SPEAKER_19: 21:16

I'm at the age now where it's like, hey, 30 years goes by pretty quick.

SPEAKER_17: 21:20

Yeah, exactly. Exactly. Okay, Zero Hedge, it was a great, great, has great articles. Uh, they've got an article by Tyler Durden called Is a Backdoor Gold Standard Coming? And this article just basically goes through it's like, listen, everybody's trying to get off the fiat system. Um, in 1918, excuse me, uh 1771, 1873, there was the Coinage Act, which recognized gold as money, and we've kind of just moved away from that ever since then. And uh, anyways, it's going through here, it's talking about just gold has uh absolutely increased in value. And with the new Basil III rules, which this is all like high finance stuff, but they took effect in 2022 and they were fully implemented this year. And uh they explicitly reclassified allocated gold as a zero risk risk weight asset, and silver is closely behind it. So we are actually, it looks like you know, the masters of the universe are moving central banks and banks back into like a sound money system, they're trying to back the fiat currency with something uh you know tangible in the bank. So it'll be interesting to see how that goes. Is it is it almost time?

SPEAKER_19: 22:26

Uh it's not nothing lighting up yet. Okay.

SPEAKER_17: 22:30

So one of the other things, too, talking about banks and banks trying to get more solid, is with all of the government weaponization. Obviously, I got debanked. I say that all the time. You I cannot, I cannot sometimes I say I was talking to Ivan Raikon. He's a popular guy on X, runs around uh Washington, D.C., often ends up sitting behind people that are uh speaking in congressional hearings. So you'll see him on like C-SPAN all the time, sitting in the back.

SPEAKER_19: 22:59

He's not one of these like DTF hat guys, is he?

SPEAKER_17: 23:03

No, I don't think so.

SPEAKER_19: 23:04

Donald Trump forever.

SPEAKER_17: 23:06

No, he's uh he's a former uh intelligence officer, lieutenant colonel or colonel. Oh, so he's there for real. Yeah, he's there for real. He's trying to influence policy and things like that. So, anyways, I was talking to him on the phone and I was saying, yeah, you know, I got arrested and then I got audited and then debanked, and then he's like, Man, it makes my blood boil just hearing you talk about that so nonchalantly. And I'm like, Yeah, I mean, I've been wanting to go back to January to uh DC for January 6th, and it's funny. I'm like, no big deal, right? It's all over. I'm pardoned. I just want to go back and see it. And everybody's like, Don't go, oh my gosh. Like, really? Still? Well, this is Jamie Diamond talking about the issue specifically of debanking. He's got an interesting way of take on this. He's like, look, it's the government's fault. Don't blame the banks. Uh, you know, we all have to grow up here. I don't know, man. Uh I don't know.

SPEAKER_31: 23:56

Did you send over the bank records of Devin Nunez or Trump supporters to the special counsel when he wanted that information?

SPEAKER_01: 24:05

People have to grow up here, okay? And stop making up things and stuff like that. So, and I can't talk about an individual account. We do not bank people, debank people so religious or political affiliations. We do deban them. They have religious and political affiliations. We debank people who are Democrats, we debank people who are Republicans, we've debanked different religious folks. Never was that for that reason. And that's number one. Number two is I don't like debank people. We live under very strict rules and regulations and requirements. And to protect the country, and we have to report things to the government, we're required to report things to the government. I can't even tell you when we do it, because I'm not going to tell you that either. Uh uh and so I've I want to change these rules. I actually applaud the Trump administration who's trying to say the debanking's bad and we should change the rules. Well, damn it, I've been asking to change the rules now for 15 years. So change the rules. And you know, and that's why a lot of this stuff takes place. It is really customer unfriendly. And, you know, we're debanking people because of suspected things or negative media or all these various things. So uh uh and the last thing, which is really important, we we don't give information to the government just because they ask. We're subpoenaed. We are required by court to give it to the government. And I've been following subpoenas with this administration, the last administration, the administration before that, and the one before that. And I don't agree with a lot of it. You know, the government does a lot of things that get angry with banks. So let's just let's just take a deep breath and fix the problems as opposed to like blame someone who's put in that position. So uh and we've been quite clear about this. We've given recommendations to the government how they can fix it, how we can change the rules and regulations to dramatically reduce reporting and de-banking and things like that. And I would tell the government if if we see something that might possibly be bad, we'll report it to you and you decide. Why do we have to decide? That's the position we're putting in.

SPEAKER_17: 25:55

So you what he just admitted there is the big banks are just extensions of the government. Uh-huh. The government's delegated to their decisions. Yeah. Well, we can't violate their rights, but you can. We don't even like doing it. We don't like doing that. Yeah. He's admitting, like, first of all, government's weaponized. I don't agree with a lot of these subpoenas. We debank people. Yeah, they've got religious and political affiliations. Beside the point, we debunk them for all kinds of reasons. Suspicion, bad media, bad negative. Uh, that sounds like social credit score assessments. You know what I mean? Like some bad media. You're gonna debank someone? Wow, that's interesting. So you you'll you'll uh do all the banking for Jeffrey Epstein, but you won't you won't bank for a January 6th defendant.

SPEAKER_19: 26:38

Well, he's got a lot of money.

SPEAKER_17: 26:40

Yeah. Now, obviously, when it came to Donald Trump being debanked from them, that was like a huge deal. Are we ready now? Yeah, all right, let's do it. All right, it's coffee, coffee, coffee time.

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SPEAKER_17: 27:48

How many breaths did you take in that? Two?

unknown: 27:50

Two breaths.

SPEAKER_17: 27:52

That's awesome. Yes, gotta have your coffee at the gate going in the morning. Okay, so let's jump over to this J6 pipe bomb situation. Oh. I gotta admit, I immersed myself in this case this weekend, and I am more disgusted than I have ever been.

SPEAKER_19: 28:04

Okay. Like I can't even I'm actually glad that that's how you feel because I do too.

SPEAKER_17: 28:08

I can't even begin to tell you how I like. I'll tell you what. You know, they're straight up lying to us, right? Dude, I have no other conclusion to come to. All right. There's these moments in time where you see something and it's like you have a chance to get away. There's this moment. You see the corruption, you see the rot, you see the branches about to fall over the spot you're gonna walk. And it's like you have a choice. Do I stop? Do I turn around and run? You know, do I do I engage with this? This is one of those moments this weekend for me where I'm like, oh, oh, I thought they were changing. Oh, oh, I thought they were reforming. Uh, I thought this this was gonna be over for us. And I say us plurally, like January 6th, and I'm like, oh no, we're still in the middle of it.

SPEAKER_19: 28:52

Okay, I saw a clip this morning. Well, it's on the can. So so uh, but I have to, this is the right moment to bring it up. So a guy was talking about uh the book from Alexander Solesnichin. Uh I can't The Archipelago Gulag. Yes, and he's talking about one of the main points of the whole book, and the and the main point is is that we know the government's lying to us, they know that we know that they're lying to us, and then they still lie to us, and then we don't do anything about it, and that's the point. They're able to lie to our faces and get away with it, and that's power over people. That's raw power. That's raw power.

SPEAKER_17: 29:34

This is also raw power here. I wanna this is the first time I've ever seen a good quality aerial shot of January 6th. Okay, so this is early in the morning. This is probably like 6 30, 6.

SPEAKER_19: 29:45

Okay, before I show this, remember, can you tell us how many people they said showed up?

SPEAKER_17: 29:50

There's been estimates. I've seen low estimates at half a million, I've seen high estimates at two plus billion. Okay, okay. But this was probably six, six thirty in the morning. No speaking was gonna start till like 10 30 or 11. Okay. This is just people filling in, right? This is the this drone, whoever sent this up, is right next to the uh Washington Memorial here, the monument. So there's the Capitol, but I mean, this is a large area here, this is more than a football field plus, right? Just packed, and you can see it's just starting to go. I ended up watching it right up here by this right in front of this Megatron thing. There's the White House all the way up there, not filled in all the way too. So people are just converging into this place, right? So I wanted to show that video there because it was a generically peaceful morning, lots of spontaneous singing of the national anthem and stuff like that. And obviously, this whole thing got derailed when these two pipe bombs were discovered, which caused this security incident, which is precisely the quote from my trial from the Capitol, then the chief of police, right, came in and said there was a security incident caused us to divert agents, and that allowed the crowd to basically impose itself on the Capitol building. And along you've got Ray Apps and a bunch of stuff that's happening. Well, they finally found the pipe bomber last week. Brian Cole Jr., a 30-year-old autistic boy living in his parents' basement 50 miles from the Capitol, happened to be the one, and they had the data and the information all along, but they chose to ignore it. Well, he gets arrested. We're all kind of like, huh, that's interesting. There is thing after thing after thing. They're telling us that this is the guy who's walking in the gray sweats at night. There's been no gate analysis. When you run the picture, hit full-size body picture of him, full-size body picture of the gate, the the bomber and the proportions are off. You can't fake it. It's just AI says zero percent possibility of a match. But then you see some. There's a one image of Carrie, the Capitol Hill police officer. She's walking and she's got that slight limp, and there's an overlay with the bite ball. I mean, it's precise. It's precise. Size, the the angle of the body, the arm, everything. Just absolutely perfect.

SPEAKER_19: 32:09

Yeah, even if you wanted to argue about it, okay. You know, nice try.

SPEAKER_17: 32:13

Yes. Okay, so let's go over a couple things.

SPEAKER_19: 32:16

Okay.

SPEAKER_17: 32:17

First and foremost, this young man has been uh arrested. He's in detention. He's unlikely to make bond or anything like that. This is Julie Kelly on the war room. I believe that I'm the first person to make this news broadly known. The prosecutor in this case is named Jocelyn Ballantyne. Okay. Jocelyn Ballantyne was the prosecutor on the Proud Boys cases. So I I X'd this out to Enrique Antario and he lit up. This was I informed him, and he turned around and called everybody he knew about it. He did a couple of interviews over the weekend. This is weird stuff. So this is what Julie Kelly has to say about it.

SPEAKER_26: 33:10

So you know this better than anybody because you were essentially an eyewitness to this. Now, you have also been, since Darren Beattie's in the government and Raheem's doing other stuff right now, uh you you're really one of our lead watchdogs, if not the lead, on this whole thing with the pipe bomb. And you informed me last night, and I can't believe it because my it I my head's still blown up from when you told me that the FBI agents and the lead attorney, the prosecutor on this case with the pipe bomber is one of the worst prosecutors, one of the worst demons that were out there prosecuting the J6, the J6 uh folks. How could that possibly Julie? You must have gotten this one wrong. You're your your track record's a hundred percent, but on this one, Julie Kelly must be wrong. This can't possibly be true, can it, ma'am?

SPEAKER_34: 34:04

As I tell my husband all the time, of course I'm right. Yes, I'm right. I'm never wrong. Never. Um, unfortunately, I wish that this was not true. Um and I guess my only thought here is that the new leadership at the DOJ and FBI are not aware of who this individual is, Jocelyn Valentine.

SPEAKER_17: 34:28

Who was they're just not aware of who their lead prosecutor in this huge J6 case is, just who she is. So just some random lion attorney picked up this, you know, case of total importance. The lead prosecutor.

SPEAKER_34: 34:42

She led the team of government lawyers, DOJ lawyers, who went after the Proud Boy. I and I covered that trial, right? I covered that in 2023. She is among the worst of the worst when I was asked to help submit names of J6 prosecutors who should be fired. She was towards the top of the list.

SPEAKER_26: 35:06

Um, so I have no idea how to do that. Oh, Jolie, Jolie, Jolie, Jolie, Jolie, hang on, hang on. She treated the the Proud Boys got a totally fair trial. She didn't pull any uh fast ones, she didn't entrap anybody.

SPEAKER_17: 35:19

She was Okay, so I went and listened to Enrique Antario talk about this prosecutor. Before he got sentenced, they passed a piece of literally, this woman sat in a room, passed a piece of paper over him with a narrative written on it. You know, Trump encouraged you through a third-party intermediary to storm the Capitol and take over the government, right? And he's like, I don't agree with that. 22-year sentence. Okay. He they were basically saying, You won't go to jail. You know, we need this narrative. She, that prosecutor, slipped that paper over to him. Okay, it was that prosecutor that was spying on the phone calls. They sent over the discovery with all the information. And as they were going through it, someone's like, Hey, there's a there's a tab here that says hidden. They clicked on hidden, and it was all the the emails and text messages that they excluded from the discovery, and it was the collusion. And they had that they were monitoring the attorney client privilege phone calls, which should have been an automatic mistrial. And Judge Kelly was like, it's not relevant. Well the the the the the amount of things this prosecutor did is legion. We're gonna talk about just a few of them as we continue. Above board, was she not, ma'am? Why are you picking on her?

SPEAKER_34: 36:21

She was not, and I have a piece up that I posted last night when I disclosed this that Jocelyn Valentine is the lead prosecutor in the Brian Cole Jr. uh pipeline case. I covered her, and this was a huge scandal during the Cowboys childhood force no one was covering. The defense team discovered the strategy of the FBI for evidence going back and forth. Your agents were talking about determining evidence. They were talking about prevailing fighting on eavesdropping on communications between cowboys who are all in pre-trial detention and their attorney. They were attempting that communication and some other malfeators found the spreadsheet accidentally, of course. And they wanted to use this as evidence. They were they were at the time questioning an FBI agent, a government witness, and they were going to start presenting what they found in the spreadsheet. Judge Tim Kelly, who by the way, is good friends with Jocelyn Valentine, they worked together in the DCUS attorney's office, they worked on cases together. Judge Kelly abruptly cuts off the questioning as the defense attorney is about to present this evidence to the government witness. A day or two later, Jocelyn Valentine goes into court and claims that that communication represents classified secret, classified information and should be withheld from the jury. Which, of course, the judge can be. That's just one example of what he did leading the team of the prosecutors against the cowboys, or of course, then convicted of sedition's conspiracy. Then she went ahead and tried to throw the book at them and put some of them in prison for life, like in Luigi Tario, who ended up getting a funny two prison sentence. And so, of course, they were all commuted by the president and would be hang on, hang on, hang on, hang on.

SPEAKER_19: 38:30

It's just horrible. Like, yeah, so let's do it.

SPEAKER_17: 38:34

So unfortunately, this is one of those topics that's so big, we can't really go into great detail. You've got to go and get the source material. So, you, the listeners here who kind of rely on this show to get your information, you're just gonna have to trust me. This is bad news bears. There's nothing good about this. She should have been top of the list of people to be fired. And when I go through the list of cases she's been involved in, you're gonna go, OMG. So, first of all, uh, this is coming from Tony Segura. He's an online sleuth, he reports a lot of stuff. Um, the Justice Department is paying attention. Why is Ballantyne still in the justice, let alone working the Brian Cole Jr. pipe bomber case and the Ramalalula Lakalawal case, the Afghan National accused of shooting two West Virginia National Guard members. So she's not only covering the guard case, but she's also now covering the pipe bomb case. FYI, these are Cole's Jr.'s numbers that will be invaluable in a successful prosecution. So he's got the numbers here. There's an X for the last numbers, not fully doxing them. And what they did is they did open source commercial information. I want the cell phone pings. You can just go buy this information. Okay. Right? Private investigators and stuff like this. This is how they figure out where your cheating spouse has been. They just go bing, where's he been? Lastly, why is Ballantyne meeting privately away from DC with Bill Barr, Representative Eric Swalwell, Representative Addict Swift, and former White House counsel Don McGann.

SPEAKER_19: 39:49

Adam Schiff.

SPEAKER_17: 39:50

So then it comes over here the J6 Bibomber in BLM Antifa, tracking devices linked to Brian Cole and using a BLM and Antifa overlay of known protest events, many overlap. But we need a triple check all the data. There are multiple anomalies, including date time not matching the carrier logs. However, we confirm that one of these devices visited Fort Bragg in November 2020 and made over half a dozen visits to Camp Barrett and the FBI Academy Visitor Center in February, March of 2021. Fort Bragg is in North Carolina. North Carolina is where Tom Tillis is. Anytime something J6 comes up, because that's where they run their PSYOP division out of, all the North Carolina senators and representatives lose their mind. They're protecting Fort Bragg, clearly. Okay. So then he goes on to continue here. Oh, maybe that was it on that one. Yeah, that's it for that post. So Jocelyn Bennett doing the DC shooter case and doing the J6 pipe bomber case. Michael Flynn Jr., who's General Flynn's son. How many judges are there? It just seems like such a weird coincidence. There's like 16 on the DC circuit judges. Okay. Prosecutors, hundreds, dozen, you know, quite a few. So again, why you see the the fact that we know these names and they're on infamous case after infamous case is defies the odds. That's what I'm saying. Now, if these were like real kids, like Rudy Giuliani was the guy, like, of course he's at the top of all the cases for against the mob or whatever. So this is Michael Flynn Jr. Why is Jocelyn Ballantyne still employed at the Justice Department? For those who don't remember her ties to General Flynn, she is a career prosecutor with the USA Department of Justice, specializing in national security cases. She has been directly involved in high-profile prosecutions, most notably as one of the lead attorneys on the team that handled the criminal case against retired Lieutenant General Michael Flynn, President Trump's national security advisor. Their professional intersection stems from Flynn's 2017, quote, guilty plea to making false statements to the FBI about his conversations with Russian ambassador Sergei Kislyak. A charge that arose from the FBI's crossfire hurricane investigation into potential ties with the Trump campaign in Russia, something we know that was all made up and completely fabricated. Key details, assignment of evidence, handling Ballantyne joined the prosecution's team after special counsel Robert Mueller's office wrapped up in 2019. She was responsible for filing court documents, including responses to Flynn's motions and handling discovery materials. In 2020, the DOJ admitted to inadvertently altering key evidence. Oopsie's handwritten notes from former Deputy Director Andrew McCabe and Peter Strzok by adding dates that suggest the notes were from specific meetings, including one potentially involving then Vice President Joe Biden. They were dating things to put the insert to insert a narrative where there was none, right? Ballantyne defended these documents at court filings, claiming they were unaltered based on cons consultations with the FBI agents' lawyers through correspondence. Later revealed those lawyers explicitly refused to vouch for their accuracy. But don't worry, she did it for them. In May 2020, under the Attorney General William Barr's review, the DOJ moved to dismiss Flynn's case, arguing the FBI's interview of Flynn lacked a legitimate investigative purpose and that the prosecution couldn't prove guilt beyond a reasonable doubt. Notably, Ballantyne declined to sign the initial dismissal motion filed by acting attorney Timothy Shea, signaling internal DOJ disagreements. She did sign a revised version and subsequent appellate briefs defending the dismissal. Flynn's defense attorney, Sidney Powell, accused Ballantine of provided providing redacted FBI interview reports through O2 forms that omitted crucial exculpatory details and submitted all uh submitting altered exhibits to the court. So, of course, the judge got involved. But then the question is again, what is going on here? How can you have the same prosecutor that's in charge of mishandling everything about the Flynn case, including the prosecution of him that was, you know, should have been fit illegally flawed from its inception? And who's supposed to defend the defendant? I don't know. Anyone who takes an oath to the constitution that's supposed to defend the rights of the individual. Okay, even if you do work for the government, you're still supposed to defend the rights of the individual. Okay. Flub that one up. Then you turn around and she ends up prosecuting the Proud Boys, a completely uh deranged prosecution. And now she's on the pipe bomber case. She should have been fired after the Flynn case. She definitely should have been fired after the Proud Boys case. Now it's like, okay, if you fire her now, is this a Mia Koopa? Or are we just watching the continuation of the pipe bomb plan? Does that make sense? Like, what if they held this in reserve for this very moment? How do you know this the actor that played along with all of this nonsense is still in charge of all of the case?

SPEAKER_19: 44:32

Well, it only took us five years to get here.

SPEAKER_17: 44:35

Yeah. So so then here, right, Brianna Morello, D.C. federal prosecutor Jocelyn Ballantyne, is a prosecuting the January 6th Pipon case. Odd given her previous accusations of corruption, I have reached out to Judge Janine's office for comment regarding these allegations, including she also helped Jack Smith target President Trump in his January 6th political hit job, trying to give Proud Boy Enrique and Tyro no prison time if he lied about President Trump working with him to orchestrate J6 and using invalid attorney identification number in the Justice Department's shocking motion filed last week to dismiss the case against her former National Security advisor, Michael Flynn. This is no different than Marine Comey getting Epstein, Glaine Maxwell, Diddy. And it's like, wow, all these cases that allegedly out on the internets in the conspiracy world are alleged to have ties to some of the most powerful people in the country. And what do we end up with a bunch of failed charges in Diddy's case? And he's essentially a glorified domestic violent wife beater.

SPEAKER_19: 45:33

Sure.

SPEAKER_17: 45:33

And he got a sentence that was equivalent to my sentence for pushing gates.

SPEAKER_19: 45:37

Right.

SPEAKER_17: 45:38

I should have brought some baby oil with me to January 6th. This is crazy. Costco amounts. Good heavens. So this is Corinne Clifford. She's an independent journalist, and she's one of these journalists that does invaluable uh sourcing because she goes out and actually beats down the street. She's not just putting out propaganda and writing articles and scanning X. She's actually going out and meeting with these people. She went out and met with the family of Brian Cole. Okay. Brian Cole Jr. Now, I saw a post from Brianna Morello who was in the courtroom when Brian Cole was arraigned. His family was in tears. They were in shock. They do not believe this is the pipe bomber. They absolutely believe he's innocent. This kind of set me off a little bit because I've been in the courtroom and there you can't hide that emotion. Okay. So the fact that his family thinks he's innocent, keep in mind he's been living in the basement for five years. You think at some point, you know, he might have noticed the sneakers or noticed the uh pipe ball material building up in the garage, okay? But they don't feel that way at all.

SPEAKER_00: 46:40

So my name is Corinne Clifford. I'm a very serious independent journalist. If you know the work that I do, you'll understand where I'm at right now. I am in the neighborhood in Woodbridge, Woodbridge, Virginia, where the alleged pipe bomber lives. I'm not doxing anything. It's a very cute neighborhood. And guess what? I just spoke to his mother, Delicia. And she's got a beautiful name, Delicia. And she's a a beautiful woman. And she and I just cried together because she says that her son is innocent. I didn't tape record her. I didn't videotape her. I didn't set her up. I wrote a letter. I gave it to her. I gave it to the neighbors. If there's any information, everyone can call me and text me at 917-287-1314. But I want you all to know I live for Jesus Christ, our Lord and Savior. And if a black man is accused of something he didn't do, I will spend the rest of my life on this news story. This is very banned and censored, dangerous news now. I don't know all the facts because I was told by journalists like Steve Baker two months ago that the pipe bomber was a white all-American lesbian female who allegedly, allegedly works for the CIA. But I just knocked on Delicia Cole, the mother of Brian Cole Jr. I just knocked on her door. She answered and we cried together. So I'm not exploiting the situation. I'm telling you that I'm on the scene here in a Virginia, in Woodbridge, Woodbridge, Virginia. I'm not gonna dox the address. I'm not gonna get into this more, but if you can see my face, I take this very seriously. And I want you to understand that my journalism is real. I am here with uh someone that helps me a lot. Um, he's a beautiful black man named Ethan. I don't want to dox him, but I do have a bodyguard with me and I have other people. One of the neighbors in this neighborhood threatened to punch me. A white man threatened to punch me. Another white man took my information and said if he had information, he would uh tell me. But uh Brian Cole Jr. has a dog that he takes really good care of. He keeps to himself. He's around 30 years old. Allegedly, he's autistic. Uh, I asked his mother, is your son a Trump supporter? Are you a Trump supporter? Of course, she wouldn't answer me, which I take is that they're not Trump supporters. But what I told her is that this time last year, I had what, 2,158 American patriots uh arrested. And if her son is innocent, I will go to the ends of the earth to help him. She doesn't know what jail or prison her son is in right now, and um, I gave her a little bit of help in that direction. But this is a really serious news story. I'm not trying to look glamorous, I'm not trying to say I'm cool. My name is Corinne Clear.

SPEAKER_17: 49:33

Anyways, she, you know. Over the weekend, you know, allegedly, oh, we got a confession out of him. We met with them for four hours before arraignment. We got a confession out of them. Well, this Jocelyn Ballantine has a record of getting false confessions even from a general. General Flynn. Enrique Antario, all the Proud Boys. In fact, some of them did flip, and they've since recanted and done affidavits saying that they, you know, got time off their sentence. Uh, one of the things that Viva Fry, and going through this guy's history, because instantly, you know, the internet knows everything, he's got accounts and some scandalous websites, and you know, pretty classic story. Hey, look, uh, you can have these charges, or you can buy some end caps at Home Depot this week. Right. Okay, Mike Benz went through the whole time frame of this, and it's too uncanny, right? When they were doing the election integrity project, the the uh pedestal war game plan for keeping Trump out of office that same weekend when they were meeting, this guy's buying stuff at a Home Depot nearby. Like it just looks too much. Steve Dantuano, who was the FBI station chief up in uh during the mission Michigan kidnapping plot, where they had informants basically creating that whole kidnapping situation, gets transferred DC. Boom. This guy's buying stuff at Home Depot. It just feels like and now you have the prosecutor who was the hammer that put the last nail in the coffin on all these entrapment cases, is the lead prosecutor on this case. Oh, but don't worry, they got a they got a confession from the autistic boy four hours in. Oh, we're good to go now. We know we know who the mismatch gray sweatpant person is with this short-legged guy. That's the other thing, he's got like abnormally short legs, so it totally doesn't work. Okay, CNN, you know, they're a little shocked. They're like, well, maybe um this just isn't what people thought. Maybe we need to go deeper on our re-education. If MAGA is penetrating black America, what he says.

SPEAKER_32: 51:26

Maybe he put a bomb at the DNC because he was he believed the Democrats stole the election because Republicans and conspiracy theorists pushed that, and he put the bomb at the RNC because the vice president who was about to be um sworn in was going to ride by uh uh that area. There are many scenarios that the prosecution will have to play out the case. I'm just gonna I'm gonna say the thing out loud that I think everyone is not saying and is actually surprising and why I think Janine Piro is actually saying it. I think the fact that this man is a black man is surprising to people. I think people thought this was gonna be a white man that did this. They were gonna be able to say he was a part of the progressive left. And the fact that it's a black man that is saying I too was susceptible to conspiracy theorists that the president and uh conservative podcasts were pushing that this election was stolen, is uh a fact that they were not expecting, and now everyone is on their heels and they're trying to spin it. And I think that might be also why you think, let's not believe his actual story right now. Like if he's trying to get speculated.

SPEAKER_19: 52:27

I didn't understand what she was saying. What was her argument? She wants to have her cake and eat it too. That's what it boils down to. Okay.

SPEAKER_17: 52:33

Well, this is a black man, and you know, clearly he was believing the lies. This is just devastating. We thought it would be a white left, you know, they were they were hoping it would be a left liberal, but it turns out to be a black, you know, the allegation that he's a Trump supporter generally, you know, supports the Trump, but he's got some anarchist views. The problem with the whole generic anarchist views is like Ron, you and I could be accused of anarchist views because we don't like building permits. You know what I mean? Like and we think taxation is theft, you know, the oldest tradition of Americans.

SPEAKER_19: 53:03

Yeah, but yeah, oh, we're we're I'll throw some tea in the harbor.

SPEAKER_17: 53:06

Yeah. So we're anarchists too, and we generally think the 2020 election was a little shady. Oh, great. Now that's us and like 65% of the rest of the country. Now, this uh white guy on CNN, I don't even know who he is, he offers kind of this is what I call the uh concede the premise or or concede the whole case, but try to just soften the blow.

SPEAKER_18: 53:29

A different theory potentially on this. This guy's clearly warped in his head. He gets arrested. He realizes, well, the Trump DOJ is in charge. President Trump is the president of the United States. Maybe if I tell them it was because I thought the election was stolen, they'll take it easy on me. And his warped mind. No, but I mean, I'm just saying, like you put bombs on both sides. But are you saying all of a sudden he's a truth guy? And everybody says maybe a different theory.

SPEAKER_19: 53:54

This is the dumbest game ever. Hey, let's guess what the autistic kid was thinking.

SPEAKER_17: 54:02

The autistic kid is thinking, I want to go home to mommy and Michael. So Birkenbind says, uh Birkenbind says, doesn't know where he's being held, the mother. Yeah, but this is common practice. When you first get arraigned, you you're they can't, if you're in transport, like likely he's gonna end up in the DC gulag. Right? He's gonna he's gonna end up in protective custody there. So they're not gonna release publicly where he's being held until he's in his final place, he's nice and safe, and nobody can get him, right? They don't want it, they don't want you to be tipped off or watching for transport. So that is not unusual practice. It would happen with a DUI guy and especially with a national security person. Yeah, because there's gonna be people all over, even just to sow chaos to try to stage a breakout or something like that. Sure. It's just sad reality. So the big question here is, and this is where sometimes uh as a peasant, I sometimes get I have a blind spot to this. I have a blind spot to this when it comes to January 6th. I just want to go back to DC for January 6th. And everybody in my life's like, dude, you're freaking crazy, right? And it's like, well, why is it why is it crazy? I uh in my mind, I should be out of the woods, right? Like, I'm back to the good old Boy Scout, you know, five kids, like homeschool dad, like I'm back to that life. Yeah, but the reality is our government is built to lie. How do you end up with a DEA agent with cops all around him, by the way, embezzling$12 million? How do you end up with Crossfire Hurricane? How do you end up with indicting General Flynn on a completely made-up premise and a lie? How do you end up with the Whitmer kidnapping plot? Like, how do you end up with this stuff? Like some things you see, you can see it kind of generating organically. Sometimes with that Antifa, it feels really organic. Like, oh, it's dissatisfaction with housing prices. Like it's basically when you reject the reject the fact that you have to finance this month's rent over four years, you know. When you finally wake up to that, you'll you'll, you know, the buses are gonna be free one way or the other, you know. At that point, you just throw your hat in with all the anarchists when you're like, whatever we're doing, it's not working. I get it. Okay, I get that. But what about when the government really wants to go after something? How big of a lie will the government perpetrate and tell you and gaslight you what you said about Solchanichin, the archipelago gulag? We know they're lying. They know we're lying, but they lie to us anyway, and we do nothing about it. Okay, so let's go over a couple big lies. And if the government will do big lies, what would stop them from doing a small lie?

SPEAKER_14: 56:24

Of course we attacked Iraq. I mean, even if we hadn't made up the whole notion of weapons of mass destruction, we would have made up something else to justify an attack on Iraq. I mean, look at Dick Cheney's efforts to connect uh Saddam Hussein with Al-Qaeda. For those of us inside the CIA who knew a little bit about Iraq and about Al Qaeda and about Islam, I mean, everybody to a man would have said there's literally nothing Muslim about Saddam Hussein. He famously made the Umrah, the minor pilgrimage to Saudi Arabia, and it was either 1987 or 1988. He went with the vice president of Iraq Ibrahim. Iza Ibrahim was a pious Sufi Muslim. Saddam didn't even know the prayers. And so when they went to the Kaaba to pray, um Iza Ibrahim knelt just behind Saddam to whisper the prayers to him so that he could say them out loud and make it look like he knew what the hell he was doing. So there was no connection between Al Qaeda and Saddam Hussein. Osama bin Laden hated Saddam Hussein at least as much as he hated the United States. There was no connection there. But Dick Cheney both counted correctly, as it turned out, on the American people being so stupid and so gullible that they would just go along with it.

SPEAKER_17: 57:54

Yeah, well, I guess I literally so stupid and so gullible that they would just go along for it. That we would send our sons and daughters to go fight Islam in the most sectarian nation in the Middle East, the nation that has the most, the highest literacy rate in the Middle East, has the lowest poverty rate in the Middle East, the most doctors per capita in the Middle East, but I can't have that because he wants this gold standard and he's kind of like getting real protective of his oil and not playing ball. You know, and we sold him a lot of weapons in the 80s to fight Iran and it we got some receipts that we need to go, you know, we need to go recover our yellow cake. Turns out he'd already used it elsewhere, so we never found any. We're pretty damn sure we sold him some. Okay, Roosevelt had the receipts, but they got burnt down in uh in building seven on 9-11. So we're going off memory here. How about climate change? Do you think the government would institute a big climate change fraud and get us to spend trillions of dollars and curb our habits and buy cars with special catalytic converters to lower the emissions rate? Do you think they would do that all based on a lie?

SPEAKER_30: 58:58

Never. True is retracting a 2024 study predicting catastrophic economic toll of climate change. Several banks used the report to make risk management plans. Too bad they didn't hear from this take by billionaire businessman Daniel Pena back in 2017.

SPEAKER_25: 59:15

The best scenario vis-a-vis global warming is about 10 feet raising water. That means the southern part of the United States is gone. England is gone, most of Europe is gone. Let's just take Florida, for example, which is one of the fastest growing condominium, beachfront condominiums on the planet. Not one single investment prospectus written since 2000 this century has alluded to global warming.

SPEAKER_30: 59:46

Now one our next guest is making the case that climate change may have actually spared America from hurricanes this year, some of these years.

SPEAKER_17: 1:00:00

Like, uh, you know, they've been my parents were concerned about climate change. Like at a certain point, it's like beyond our life, right? But that he Paina was right in 2017 when he said they wouldn't be given loans on waterfront condos. Now it's getting harder to insure waterfront condos. Okay, but nonetheless, you can still get a bank loan for them. You just, you know, the insurance might be more than the loan. Uh, either way, though, again, another huge lie. Al-Qaeda and Saddam Hussein are tight at the hip. Let's go take them out. Maybe not. Oh, hey, climate change. You know, we need taxation and we need, you know, limits on driving and we need to push all kinds of green energy. Yeah, the science was bogus, but we see what you're doing with that money. Okay, that money's not going to fight climate change either. Now, they'll do that on the big stuff, right? They'll send your sons and daughters to die overseas over what? Over what again? Not really sure what we were doing in Iraq. You know, they'll s they'll send all of your tax money and regulate to death over a bogus climate change.

SPEAKER_19: 1:00:58

Yeah, but but my district makes tanks, so we got to make tanks.

SPEAKER_17: 1:01:02

War's good. War's good. Okay, now they'll do it even on a personal level. You want to stand up against the government and the political regime that's in power? Even if you think they're on your side, they might come for you. Here's the representative that Donald Trump just pardoned last week.

SPEAKER_31: 1:01:16

Uh tell me specifically, who tried to bribe you? You mean Biden's DOJ tried to bribe you?

SPEAKER_21: 1:01:23

Yes, uh, they did. You know, we got all the uh the testimony, the uh the 302s, the thing operation. They set up a false uh a false uh company, uh false account. They took out money. We saw all this, they took out the money and they said this money was to bribe me. They they uh you they try to use this money, they talk to my DC staff, my DC.

SPEAKER_17: 1:01:48

So my understanding is he was charged for like conspiracy to accept a bribe that he never accepted, but turns out the bribe was coming from the DOJ. Oh so he didn't accept the bribe, but since we offered it to you, we're going to prison.

SPEAKER_21: 1:02:02

There was nothing there, so they actually returned the money back to the account because they couldn't bribe me. So the the Biden administration uh they tried to entrap me and try to bribe me, and that that failed. And this is very significant because one more thing, everything came in from the DOJ in DC. Everything came from the DOC uh office there. The local office, that is the one in Houston, never got enough. And from my sources, they did not get involved because they felt there was not a case and they said we're not gonna get involved. The Houston office said we're not gonna get involved. It's all the DOJ uh people in Washington, D.C. There's a lot more, and I have talked to Jim Jordan, and I've asked Jim Jordan, I want to sit down with y'all because I think you all need to investigate those prosecutors, and you need to investigate uh their supervisors also.

SPEAKER_17: 1:02:58

Oh, yeah. Just like we should have investigated the prosecutors and the supervisors from Crossfire Hurricane that prosecuted General Friend and Donald Trump, and the prosecutors and the investigators that went after all the conservatives in Arctic Frost and Ukraine gate. And should we just keep going? Right? They came after him, you know. They came after the entire country of Iraq, they'll come after all your bank accounts and all your state regulations for environmental protections. I mean, what won't they do? They'll come for everything, they'll eat you alive. Literally, if you let them, they'll eat you alive, just like the Somalis have been eating Minnesota a long time.

SPEAKER_37: 1:03:34

Logistically, how were these people able to pull off?

SPEAKER_17: 1:03:38

Do it, read it.

SPEAKER_19: 1:03:39

Go back. Okay, here I go. Read it. Boom. I just found this one. It looks like steak. Yeah, I was like, ooh. Oh, you gotta refresh, refresh. Oh, come on.

SPEAKER_17: 1:03:49

Yeah, you gotta do the double tap refresh. Guys, this is a good one. This is a steak. We are going to advertise steak, which is a first on this show. It's gonna be awesome. But Ron needs two seconds to do it. Oh, you're gonna have to hit refresh again. Or did it?

SPEAKER_19: 1:04:06

I don't know. Something happened.

SPEAKER_17: 1:04:08

Nobody leave. Nobody's allowed to leave. All right, let's go play this video while you key that up here. All right, back to this. Oh, nope, nope, we're doing it. We're doing it. Go, go, go, go, go, go, go. Tech issues, tech issues, tech issues. No. Oh, come on. Oh, too many requests. All right. All right. Flip over here. Let's watch this. Come back to the. We gotta read the stake ad. That's a good one. Okay, back over here. They'll they'll rob you blind.

SPEAKER_37: 1:04:34

Remind us logistically, how were these people able to pull off this massive fraud scheme? Was it just overbilling?

SPEAKER_08: 1:04:41

Right. It started out as overbilling. So the child care center might have 60 people officially enrolled on their books, and 30 would show up on a given day, but they billed as if all 60 showed up. Just straight up overbill. Over time, it evolved into a much more brazen scheme where they would create nonprofits, go register with the Secretary of State's office, create a nonprofit, and then file to join the food program. And literally, one day they didn't exist, the next day they existed. The day after that, they were claiming to feed 5,000 children a day. Their children didn't exist. So you mentioned the spreadsheets where they just used a random name generator to make up names of non-existent children to show to the state we really are feeding all these kids, but the kids didn't exist, the food didn't exist. So it started out as overbilling, and then it became billing for non-existent stuff. They just sent invoices without bothering to buy food or actually feed kids, and that got extended into some of these other programs, like the housing stabilization program or some of these other programs like addiction recovery, where they're billing for services not provided, billing for goods not provided, and uh the government, state government was just paying the invoices, no questions asked.

SPEAKER_17: 1:05:57

Logistically, how were these people billions of dollars out the door just like dollar crime? We're gonna get our stakes.

SPEAKER_19: 1:06:04

Oh, are we gonna sh we gotta get stakes? Man, I hope so. Let's see if I can find again.

SPEAKER_17: 1:06:11

You gotta find a find the stakes. Where are they? Yeah, there you go. Look at that.

SPEAKER_19: 1:06:15

Let's try that looks delicious. Oh, that looks delicious. Failed to accept I don't know.

SPEAKER_17: 1:06:21

All right. Well, uh one of the other things, there's uh uh Victor Davis Hansen is someone that I just think has you can keep trying.

SPEAKER_19: 1:06:29

I'll keep trying.

SPEAKER_17: 1:06:30

Victor David Hansen is someone who I think has excellent political takes, and I've noticed a trend. So, you know, you can create these AI avatars, you gotta be really careful. Some of my favorite pundits, Victor Davis Hansen, Elon Musk, when he makes commentary, they're doing these AI videos where they get them like making these big long explanation videos. But when you listen to it, they use uh transitional phrases that only AI uses, like that are really kind of disingenuous. You have to be a little careful. So, anyways, I had to double check and make sure this one was real. So, this is Mark Victor, uh Mark uh Victor Davis Hansen on with Scott Atlas, and he's talking about Donald Trump and how he has just overcome so much. He's really is a once-in-a-generation figure. And I think sometimes we underestimate everything Donald Trump's been through to get to where he's at. And, you know, he's really earned the right to be kind of a no-nonsense president.

SPEAKER_36: 1:07:21

Cannot think of anybody else who at one point in 2022, 23, was looking at$500 million in fines, another 80 million from each carroll. They had a stormy down, every discreet thing about his life was out there. That the Steele dossier said he was urinating on prostitutes, they were attacking him, they took his name off the ballot in 25 states, they raided his home, they went, they debanked his wife and son, 93 felony indictments. They had impeached him twice, they tried him as a private citizen that would have broken any other person. I mean, if it was me, I would I would have been no one could go through that. No one could go through that. What they said about him. No one. And he was a Nietzschean figure. The more they did it, the stronger he got. And he said, fight, fight, fight, and you know, that's who he is. There's never gonna be anybody like that again. Not in our lifetime. I am I am certain about that. No, I'm absolutely sure. And there's not anybody else who's going to say, I'm gonna say whatever I want. And if you don't like it, that's your problem. But I'm gonna try to tell the truth as I see the truth. And if I have to use capital letters or I have to, you know, tweet a picture of Chris Christie as overweight, I'll do it like a kid, and it's your problem.

SPEAKER_17: 1:08:42

Like a kid, it's your problem. What Donald Trump creates, or the people that oppose him, they create, and the left does this. This is a tactic that was, you know, really perfected in Soviet Russia. It's this noise idea. You create this constant chaos, and then when people are like, Can you please stop the chaos? The person causing the chaos obviously has the ability to stop the chaos. Adam Carolla describes this perfectly.

SPEAKER_41: 1:09:08

Because what they do is they create chaos, and then at some point they go, look at all the chaos. And it's like, yeah, I know. That's because you're doing that. And then they go, Don't you want the chaos to end? You know, and so what the the phenomenon that's kind of interesting with Trump is like, what if I just said as an example, you know, you and your wife, and your your wife said, uh, I'd like to go to bed at night and leave the front door open. And you go, I don't want to do that because like raccoons would come into the house, a stray dog, and they go, No, that's what I want to do. And you go, no, no. And then you come downstairs in the morning, the trash is all torn through because a family of raccoons walk through your living room and so on and so forth. And then you say to your wife, can we just shut the front door? Can we just shut the front door? And she goes, No, no, no. And you go, I'm shutting the front door, and you shut the front door. She's throwing a fit every single, every single night, every single night. And then at some point, your kids just go, just open the front door. I'm so tired of hearing her. I'm so tired of the arguing. And you go, but we shut the front door and we didn't get any raccoons. I know, but I don't want to hear this anymore. Just do it, you know, and you go, fine, we'll do it. And so you go, oh, you open the front door. And now there's raccoons back in the house, but there's no more arguing, and at least your kids can go in the room and shut the door and go to bed, you know? And so you're kind of it's in a way, it's like being blackmailed, right? So you go, I don't want the front door. I go, yeah, but don't you just want peace? Don't you just want some peace in your home? And you go, okay. And that's sort of what they do. They go out and they fight everything. It could be ice, it could be a ballroom, it could be anything to do with the border, it could be any transgender anything. They just fight everything, and then at some point they go, Aren't you tired of the chaos? Don't you just want some peace? Don't you want to just get back to normal? Don't you just want to get some middle of the road, somebody, just put our guy in there, open the front door, no more arguments, and we can get on with our life. Wouldn't that be nice? And I'm like, it would be nice, but there's an alternative one, which is you shut the f up. You know what I mean? Like, just let ICE do their job, let the Border Patrol do their job. How about you just sit back and let everyone do their job for 10 minutes? Let them add a ballroom onto the East Wing. How about how about that? Because that's the other alternative. I'm gonna shut the front door, you shut the f up, and we'll get on with our life. With no raccoon. You can do that, but you won't let that happen. We just bought a country with no raccoons.

SPEAKER_16: 1:11:46

That's all we're asking for. Yeah, but you know, I mean, if the climate and and and the drugs and and the ballroom and and and the piccadillos, you know what I mean?

SPEAKER_17: 1:11:58

Now, James Carville, who, you know, oftentimes it's like this guy's brilliant. Are we ready to go here? We get build campaign. You know, oftentimes James Carville has good hot takes, but this one is kind of hilarious. It's two different worlds we're living in here, right? For us and kind of our peer group, we see Donald Trump as a net positive. He's doing a lot of good things. Yeah, he's breaking the system. Yeah, are people unhappy about their snap benefits? You know, do we have a mirror there that's getting sucked into the snap, cut, you know, cut down? Yeah, I mean, the system's bloated. It's got we've got to trim the fat to see if we can even save this thing. People don't realize how bad it is. Guys are financing this month's apartment rent over four years. And you think that's not gonna compound when they have to, you know, delay their paying their apartment rent year after year. I mean, five years? I mean, what's the limit here? You're gonna be 20 years on five years of apartment payments?

SPEAKER_19: 1:12:51

People realize that our government finances its debt too.

SPEAKER_17: 1:12:55

Yeah, it's bad. These are bad news bears. So here's James Carville. He's like, hey, I think Trump finally, after everything that's been thrown at him, he's gotta know it's almost over.

SPEAKER_44: 1:13:06

The more the walls closing in on him, the more dangerous that he gets. And they're closing in on him. I can't tell you how fast they're closing in on him. No, uh and he knows that. And I uh you know, I don't want anybody to get sick, but I I assume that he's aware uh of the fact that he probably has some pretty significant health issues. He's certainly aware of the fact that he has really, really significant downside political standing right now. He can't he's not talking about Joe Biden if anybody's gonna please. He's gotta realize at some point that he's appointed a pack of buffoons that can't do anything, but uh, he's a big enough buffoon that he may not realize it. But I I am just worried sick about the next three years. And I think your point, because he's not gonna get better.

SPEAKER_17: 1:13:58

He's not gonna get better. It's gonna be more chaos. We're gonna make sure of it. People are gonna be begging for us to come back into power. Steve Bannon is understood. Steve Bannon gets it. Trump loses, Bannon goes back to prison. Okay, it's that simple. And you know, some of us who have been to prison for the last for, you know, I don't know, for the last over the during the last regime, it's a concern. It's a concern. What are they gonna? I mean, they're not above taking out a loan to pay a bribe, and then if you don't take the bribe, they'll still convict you because they were trying to offer you one. You know what I mean? Like you took the meeting to tell us no, that's a conspiracy to take a bribe. Yeah, but I told you no. But you agreed to take the meeting. Well, how did I know you weren't just a normal political donor? Ah, you know, you didn't. We won.

SPEAKER_26: 1:14:47

The truth is on our side because the facts are on our side. Joe Biden never got 15 million votes, more votes than Barack Obama. Impossible. We didn't pick up net 12 house seats when we lost the presidential, impossible. We didn't win 19 of the 20 bellwethers and lose the presidency, impossible. You generated phony ballots of folks that don't exist, and that's why you ripped those envelopes and got them. If not, Rachel Madd will be rubbing our nose at look at this, look at this thing. Double the envelope, she's there, that's her signature, she's right there, boom, right there, right there. No, in the dark at night, you did this. This is why Trump had to stand up at 11 o'clock at night and say, Hey, guess what? I'm up 800,000 in Philadelphia, and we're now gonna take down that fence. You ain't blocking us out because you're not gonna do some count. Remember, the president came out because he was tapped along and by a lot of his staff and a lot of his legal people who just wanted to get the hell out of there. And said, Oh, yeah, everybody's gonna stop counting. We're gonna all gonna stop counting. We're gonna go home and get some sleep. You get up at 6 o'clock in the morning. Hey, they continue to count everywhere, and guess what? You're now losing because they gotta count it in the dark of night.

SPEAKER_17: 1:16:04

What I think happened in 2024 is I think they had all their fake ballots, because you still had fake ballots going in Pennsylvania and all Michigan, but I think that they're killing the Dominion machines. They didn't know how many ballots to print. It's the same problem they had in 2020. They had to backload the ballots to match the machine to pass to superficially pass audits, right? And I think this is another one of those ones where they just didn't print enough ballots. They didn't know what the margins were gonna be. I mean, how high up do we have to run the score here? They could produce millions of ballots after the fact, but you couldn't produce them before the fact. You know what I mean? You needed the votes to register, you needed those machines to tell you how many ballots you needed to feed into the system. And I wouldn't be surprised if they were more sophisticated. Last time, these were flat out Biden dumps. These might have been huge batches of ballots, one-third, two-thirds or something. You know what I mean? Like it could have been really bad. Donald Trump is a pretty much a master at foreign. You know, one of someone I care about this weekend said, you know, I'm a little disappointed in Trump's been focusing on foreign stuff and not domestic stuff. First of all, I believe he's been focused on both equally. But yeah, you don't understand if you can't the a lot of our domestic problems are because of our foreign problems. You know, that whole free trade nightmare causing domestic problems. You can't fix the job market unless you can fix the quote unquote free trade problem that we have, right? You can't fix the housing market unless you can quote unquote get some of these countries to accept some of these immigrants back or these illegals back. I mean, there's like it's upsetting our markets for sure. So one of these things is you know, trying to bring peace to the Middle East, and Israel's always been kind of a thorn. They're our ally, the other Middle Eastern countries are not. Well, obviously, during the whole Palestinian-Iran conflict, and then Israel goes out and strikes Qatar and the whole thing. Well, Tucker Carlson was interviewing one of these representatives from Qatar, he's over there this weekend, I think, and um, they shared a very insightful thing about Donald Trump and one of the things he did to advance the peace along by kind of putting Israel in check and for the first time in living memory, uh forcing Israel to apologize to the Arab world.

SPEAKER_05: 1:18:15

President Trump basically told the Israelis to apologize to you. He took your side against Israel in this specific case. I don't think I've ever seen that before. I don't think it's ever happened before. What was your reaction to that?

SPEAKER_12: 1:18:29

President Trump was very clear from the beginning since the attack. When he was informed about the attack, he assigned one of his advisors to reach out to us. At the same time, he called his highness after the attack and he expressed his frustration, his disappointment from such a thing that's happening by Israel. You know, this kind of move was shocking for him.

SPEAKER_05: 1:18:49

It was his peace process that was short-circuited by their bombing using American money. You're saying that the president didn't know that was going to happen. He was surprised.

SPEAKER_12: 1:18:59

He he called us right away. The his advisors reached out to us a couple of minutes before the attack, which was like the attack was already happening. It was a very clear demonstration with all the actions that this is something happened against his will and he doesn't accept it.

SPEAKER_17: 1:19:15

Surprising. It's surprising how big a deal that is. The Biden administration, and even the Obama administration, would have taken days, they would have probably backed Israel and pretended like they approved the strike, or you know what I mean? But instead, Trump just like, no way. In fact, it set precedent for Trump because now Trump's like, yeah, you can buy our bombs, but we're not backing you in any way. Like you're on your own how you use them. Whereas the supposition before was be would be if you're selling bombs to some country and they use them, that you've you're warrantying those bombs. That that was really the idea here. And Trump is turning that on its head, where he's like, No, Israel's responsible for its own actions. And I imagine other countries that take military action using our weaponry, the same response will be had. This is Donald Trump talking about chip manufacturing and bringing chip manufacturing to the U.S. He's forecasting, you know, there's trouble brewing in Taiwan, and best not to let that key industry, chip manufacturing, be exclusively a Taiwanese product.

SPEAKER_27: 1:20:13

Gonna go on for a long time. Uh and he better not be right about that. That's all I'm saying.

SPEAKER_24: 1:20:21

Could this minimize the impact of the U.S. with chips? Should China decide to isolate Taiwan or China decide to take Taiwan?

SPEAKER_27: 1:20:28

Well, well, it's a very interesting point. It's a great question, actually, but this would certainly uh I can't say minimize. That would be a catastrophic event, obviously, but it will at least give us a position where we have in this very, very important business, we would have a very big part of it in the United States. So it would have a big impact if something should happen with Taiwan.

SPEAKER_17: 1:20:51

It's kind of a scary prospect, but you have to prepare for it. Taiwan being the linchpin for microchip, you know, semiconductor processing. The idea has been if you leave Taiwan in place, it gives the United States incentive to fight for Taiwan, which puts us on a trajectory we will be engaging with China at some point over that. Because not only do they want the island for nationalistic purposes, but they also want the chip manufacturing. And we want the chip manufacturing too. So we're defending the island, right? It's a very sticky little spot.

SPEAKER_19: 1:21:24

It's why there's always kind of weird things happening in the South China Sea between boats and oh my goodness.

SPEAKER_17: 1:21:30

In fact, China, I didn't include any of this. I should have, because you have, you know, you like the water, I think. But uh China's been pushing on the Philippines, like sending thousands of fishing boats to go fish right on the like the line where they're allowed to fish, right on the three-mile line running into Filipino boats. Oh boy, they're doing the same thing in the Sea of Japan, they're doing the same thing in Korea, and they're even doing the same thing off the coast of Peru. We're talking thousands of boats all in one spot, kind of like a show of force.

SPEAKER_19: 1:21:57

So they're fishing them out.

SPEAKER_17: 1:21:58

They're fishing them out, but also it's more than any of our navies can handle, right? When you deploy the fishing fleet and they've all got a 50 cow mounted on the front, it's a problem. You know what I mean? It's a problem. And so that's that's one of the things um Pete Hexas was talking about. He's like, China could take out our entire naval fleet in 20 minutes with their hypersonic missiles. We have no defense for that, as far as the the battleships and stuff are concerned. So he's like, the future is going to be small craft and lots of them, which China's figured out by enlisting all their fishermen as part of their, you know, every everything in their government can be weaponized.

SPEAKER_19: 1:22:35

So that's my butter knife strategy. Kill us with butterknifes? Yeah.

SPEAKER_17: 1:22:41

Basically. Which plays into the whole narrative we have in the United States about trying to kill these narco-terrorists. It's like, well, it's just a little boat. You know, it'd be really easy to take out if it was a you know big old steam-powered vessel.

SPEAKER_19: 1:22:53

What do you think those boats were built for? Do they look like danzas or are they like ski boats? What what do you think that they made those boats for people?

SPEAKER_17: 1:23:02

Exactly. Anyone who supports the illegal immigration for any cause, even if it's for, you know, well, we want to allow the economic opportunity and we really need these fruit pickers. You're supporting inadvertently, whether you want to or not, some of the most horrendous things humanity has to offer, things like child trafficking. Tom Holman and ICE and custom, you know, Border Patrol and the Marshals have been on an absolute tear to try to recover the nearly half a million children that went missing under the Biden administration.

SPEAKER_19: 1:23:30

And we have politicians that will stand around and defend it like it's some kind of a holy thing that we have to let these people into our country.

SPEAKER_17: 1:23:37

It really brings into question the whole deep QA-non stuff. Like, what are we doing with these kids? Well, it turns out sex and labor trafficking for the most part.

SPEAKER_42: 1:23:44

I look at the numbers every day. On Friday, I looked at the numbers. There's over 62,000 children found by the Trump administration. Children that weren't even being looked for under the Biden administration. President Trump saved over 62,000 children's lives. Some of these children in sex trafficking, we found them, some were in forced labor, some were being mistreated. I can't even discuss some of the mistreatment we found out about. President Trump again proves why he's the greatest president in my lifetime. Over 62,000 children rescued by President Trump. Again, children that were ignored and weren't being looked for under President Biden.

SPEAKER_17: 1:24:26

62,000 kids, which is a lot of kids. I mean, you think about the size that's that's the whole, that's all of North Kids app. Housing, care, foster care, like this is a lot of kids. And and there's they're not even, I mean, they're what 10% through the list? You know, 12% through the list of kids they're looking for. It's amazing that they're going after this. Again, anybody who supports the narco-terrorists, the cartels, the drug dealing of all kinds, it's not just fentanyl, it's all the drugs that come in. It's supporting this industry that ultimately ends up pairing with human trafficking and a lot of kids that end up in horrible spots, right? Horrible spots. Eric Smith, Senator from Missouri, was on the news this weekend, and you know, he was kind of combated some of these talking points. You guys are using these empathy talking points, but you're missing the big picture.

SPEAKER_28: 1:25:23

And Senator, let me just begin where we left off with Congressman Smith. Do you support this pardon of the former Honduran president?

SPEAKER_43: 1:25:30

I'm not familiar with the facts or circumstances, but I think what's telling here is to try to imply that somehow President Trump is soft on um drug smuggling, uh, is just ridiculous. It's totally ridiculous. He's the he's uh provided border security like we've never seen before. And the fact is, these cartels now, because the southern border is closed, they've gone to the high seas. So President Trump is acting with his core Article II powers. No serious legal expert would doubt that the president has authority to blow uh narco-terrorists out of the water who are poisoning a hundred thousand Americans every year. If you watch the SEC championship game yesterday, the Big Ten championship game, combine those two stadiums with the number of people there, that's how many people are dying each and every year from the poison that's coming from these narco-terrorists. So the fact is, George, President Trump has been delegated the authority by Congress to designate terrorist organizations. He's done that. He sent a letter to Congress saying he was going to initiate these strikes. We've had regular briefings about it, including from Secretary of State Rubio, including from other high-ranking officials in the Department of Defense. He's executing those. And so now what we have now are Democrats who have such x-ray vision and clairvoyance that they know the intentions of narco-terrorists on boats, yet were so blind to see that they had a president for four years that was operating as a vegetable in Joe Biden. So, you know, forgive me if I'm a little skeptical that this isn't all about politics and trying to uh take out um Secretary Heggsett. That's what this whole thing's been about, George. They didn't want them confirmed. They didn't want a realist in place, they didn't want to shift from their pet projects around the world and trying to build democracies in the sands of the Middle East by the barrel of a gun. We have core national interests at stake, the homeland in the Western Hemisphere, and the rise of China. That's what this administration is focused on. The Democrats are just upset about that, and they try to create some controversy each and every week, and it goes nowhere.

SPEAKER_28: 1:27:19

What do you mean you're not familiar with the facts and circumstances of pardon? It's been well reported all across the country. The former president of Honduras, he was convicted of conspiring to bring in 400 tons of cocaine into the United States, also guns and other materials. It's been front-page news across the country. Aren't you curious about that?

SPEAKER_43: 1:27:38

Well, I'm curious about your pushback on that particular point. With your previous guest, you had zero pushback because he's uh giving the Democrat talking points like you spew every single week, which is probably why your ratings are so bad. But to make the point, what I'm saying is that you're trying to you're trying to divert here the attention from what the American people actually support. 75% of Americans support us blowing narco-terrorists out of the water in the in the second support.

SPEAKER_17: 1:28:04

What happened to your voice? I hit the mute thing here. We're gonna talk about that 75% support here in just a minute. Okay.

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SPEAKER_17: 1:29:21

Boom!

SPEAKER_19: 1:29:23

Oh, you're still you're still muted.

SPEAKER_17: 1:29:25

Got that advertised in Euros? Yes. That's awesome. Hey, we got we do have some European listeners. So Eric Schmidt, right there, he's like, look, this is a huge issue. Anyone who's like opposing this going after the drug cartels for the sake of the drug cartels, yeah. Um, you got to check yourself, which makes you think what you know, what's behind this? Now, this weekend, some reporting came out. You know, who's really been opposed to these drug cartels, blowing them up? I don't know. Rand Paul. Like shockingly, right? He's been, yeah, oh yeah, huge, huge opposition. You know, how do we know there's aren't citizens? How do we know they're not shouldn't be prisoners of war? Why can't we just interdect interdict these boats? Like he's been really shocking. Well, it turns out he might be taking some money. Now, the sourcing wasn't great, so I'm gonna wait for better sourcing to come out, but again, it explains a lot because the reality is out here amongst us peasants, this is the reality of drugs.

SPEAKER_04: 1:30:16

I'm gonna go ahead and apologize before I even get to the end of this freaking video. But I tell you right now, I am so pissed off at this point to where I'm ready to put my hand through a wall. I posted a video yesterday about the DOJ taking out the rug boats. We all heard about it. They've been called M-U-R-D-E-R, whatever you want to call them. I call them goddamn heroes. They've taken is taken six family members from me. Well, this morning I go out to check my mail. I'm barefooted, got my damn night shirt on, run out there, check my mail. Next thing I know, I hear my neighbor screaming at the top of her lungs. She's an elderly woman. Yes, I'm elderly. But she's older than me. So here I go, running across the street to find out what's wrong. All I could get out of her was, he's dead. He's dead. So I walk in the house and I find her 40-year-old nephew passed away on the couch. This is not the first person to OD in her house. This is the third. I live in an average working class American neighborhood. I don't live in the goddamn hood. My street is three blocks long. I've had nine people not counting that 40-year-old across the street. That makes ten to OG on this street in the last 15 years.

SPEAKER_17: 1:32:06

It's worse than war. That's worse than we saw our sons and daughters die in World War II. It's worse than we saw them die in Vietnam. It's worse than we've seen them die in all of our conflicts. They didn't have to go anywhere. On that street alone, which is only three blocks long. And she's not in the hood. So, you know, beware of anybody who's telling you that taking out the narco-terrorists is bad. Beware. Beware of anybody who tries to defend the indefensible, things like, you know, the vaccines. If you have a kid that's affected that's vaccine injured, you know, can we have some reality? Can we have a doctor look at this? You know, can we have can we have people take a look at this? But the truth is, the leader of the opposing political party, the Democrats at large, Barack Obama, right? He's not leader in in he's leader in the movement for sure. A lot of people still think he's black Jesus, which by the way, Dominion may have helped in his first primary in the Iowa caucuses, just saying, right? But he thinks that uh, you know, telling the truth is violence.

SPEAKER_13: 1:33:06

So we have the spectacle of my successor in the Oval Office making broad claims around certain drugs and autism that have been continuously disproved. Have they? Have they ever?

SPEAKER_19: 1:33:29

The the degree to which that undermines public health, the degree to which that can do harm to women who are pregnant, the degree to which that creates anxiety for your undermines public health.

SPEAKER_13: 1:33:54

Children who are autistic, which by the way itself is subject to a spectrum, and a lot of what is being uh trumpeted as these massive increases actually have to do with a broadening of the criteria across that spectrum so that people can actually get services and help.

SPEAKER_17: 1:34:19

Not to sound like fraud to me.

SPEAKER_13: 1:34:25

All of that um is a is violence against the truth.

SPEAKER_17: 1:34:33

Violence against the truth. Violence against the truth. That's what we're dealing here with. Uh this guy here, I can't remember his name. Um, he's kind of a CIA expert. He talks about how to know you're being lied to, how to know you're in a psyop, how to know the people that you're talking to are giving you the half-truth or might have an allegiance that's different than yours. Okay. And he's being asked specifically about mocking Berg Media. How do you know that the media members are lying or podcasters nowadays? That's the big thing. A lot of podcasters are bought off. It's just the reality of it. You know, he talks about this too, how it is exactly they get a podcaster to be bought. They're like, you can say whatever you want, but when it comes to this topic, this topic, or this topic, this is your narrative. This is what you're gonna do. But they do it real cloak and dagger because one of the things they'll do is they'll they'll accept the criticism of the XYZ government agency, but then they'll insert a but, but the benefits of having them outweigh the costs, right?

SPEAKER_38: 1:35:32

That a lot of the main anchors at the big media companies were CIA operatives. Do you think that's happening today? Yes. Did you think I was a CIA operative? No. What are the signs?

SPEAKER_33: 1:35:42

When somebody is asked a difficult question about their government, their agency that they might be working for, they might answer it in a negative way, but then they'll say, Yes, but I think that allegiance mandates some kind of PR maintenance. And it doesn't make me say, oh yeah, 100% that guy is an agent or whatever, but it does make me say, that's interesting. Like that person got asked about something that happened in the 1950s with the CIA. And they say, Yes, they did that back then. However, nowadays their new focus is this and this and this. They'll throw a little commercial on top of the admission of the negative thing that happened. Commercial cover.

SPEAKER_17: 1:36:17

Exactly. Yeah. I mean, yeah, we create all these bioviruses and they could be really risky, but I mean, infant mortality, you know, childhood health, uh, anxiety of the mothers, not knowing if they should or shouldn't vaccinate.

SPEAKER_19: 1:36:30

It helps us develop all these vaccines.

SPEAKER_17: 1:36:32

That's all violence. We don't want violence. I mean, I know that the CIA has perpetrated violence, and I know the pharmaceutical industry is responsible for more mass casualty events than anything else.

SPEAKER_19: 1:36:40

But, you know, I mean code for death.

SPEAKER_17: 1:36:43

Yeah, I mean, we know that your kids get autism, but isn't it nice to just give them a pill to break the fever? You know, dial it all. All right, guys, it's time to jump over to private. We are gonna be hearing from Jasmine Crockett, one of the most crazy screeds I've ever heard. We're gonna be hearing from Tammy Duckworth a little bit more on uh actually, we might skip Tammy Duckworth. We're also gonna be hearing from Representative uh Kohler, who just got pardoned by Trump. We're gonna be hearing from him again, and then we're gonna be hearing from Elon Musk, who basically tells advertisers go F yourselves. Advertisers might be the downfall of a lot of our industries. And uh then we're also gonna be hearing about the court-martialing of the seditious six. So we got a pretty robust private today on Rumble Premium. So join the Unoffendables over there, and uh we'll talk to the rest of you guys tomorrow. Bye. All right, okay, so listen to the screed from Jasmine Crockett. This is stunning.

SPEAKER_39: 1:37:37

It's because you can then misuse words like oppression. There has been no oppression for the white man in this country. You tell me which white man were dragged out of the house. You tell me which white man were dragged out of the way. We are gonna seal your man. We are gonna wake your man. So yeah, we are gonna sit here and be offended. We wanna see here and don't let it think that it is white men on this side of the aisle telling us people of color on this side of the aisle that that y'all are the ones being oppressed, that y'all are the ones that are being harmed. It's because you can then oh no, man.

SPEAKER_19: 1:38:39

Let her go. Let her go.

SPEAKER_17: 1:38:41

Dude, it's wild, isn't it? We were it's like 300 years ago, 400 years ago. Get over yourself in a certain way we were stolen. We fought a war to fix this problem. Like it's crazy. Again, that's what's animates kind of that side is this this weaponization of oppression. Here's Tammy Duckworth. She's talking about the double tap video, and uh, she goes on this long screed, basically, you know, Hegzeth's bad, blah, blah, blah. And this seeing an anchor, Dana Bash, bless her heart. Bless her heart in the most Midwestern way I can say. Bless her heart, right? She still gets to the bottom of it and kind of uh bashes Duckworth here with just a simple question. Well, you saw the video, right? Yes, yes, of course. But did you see the classified one?

SPEAKER_23: 1:39:24

Senator, have you seen the video?

SPEAKER_02: 1:39:29

I have seen the video, um, and it is deeply disturbing. I am mostly concerned with the fact that we are putting our American servicemen and women in jeopardy here. We're putting them in jeopardy in case they ever get shot down. We're putting them in legal jeopardy. They could be brought up in international criminal courts. And so, what we're doing here is taking those professionals, or utmost professionals, and putting them into harm's way. And that's what bothers me the most about what Pete Hexeth is doing. He is the least qualified secretary of defense in our nation's history. He's very cavalier about doing things. Fact of the matter is, only Congress can decide that we can go to war. And there was no such declaration made.

SPEAKER_23: 1:40:08

I just want to make sure that um that I get this accurate. You have seen the classified video of this particular strike, the first strike, and then the double tap as it's known.

SPEAKER_02: 1:40:22

No, I've just seen what's been available in the media. I've read the food report, but I've not seen the actual video.

SPEAKER_17: 1:40:27

So basically, you've seen nothing. We haven't seen the double tap.

SPEAKER_19: 1:40:31

But you can still talk a lot.

SPEAKER_17: 1:40:32

Oh, yeah, totally. So this is uh Representative Kohler, and he's being asked by Maria Bartolomo. This is the same interview he did earlier where he talked about being entrapped by the Biden DOJ. And here he's being asked, are you gonna switch parties? Because uh, you know, Trump pardoned him. He came out, he's like, Well, I'm still a Democrat. Thank you for President Trump. And then uh and then Trump's like, oh, and now he's gonna rerun as a as a Democrat. Oh, thanks so much, in a district that I, you know, won or whatever, he says, you know, Texas, I'm amazing, and uh basically tells him no more, Mr. Nice Guy. This is kind of a very strategic move by Donald Trump. By pardoning a Democrat that's been persecuted by the Democrat regime, it puts um a point of leverage in for other Democrats that might be towing the Democrat line because there's something on them, right? I mean, if the if the Bon Gino FBI is willing to threaten a staff member of Thomas Massey, oh, we'll investigate you. How do you know that that's not precisely what happened here? And what's precisely what has played out 50 or 60 other times, which is why the Democrats vote in such a block. Their hands are so greedy, they probably get caught up in this stuff all the time. And I wouldn't be surprised if that happens on the Republican side as well. But as long as the margins are right, the DOJ just kind of sits back. You know what I'm saying? But here he's being asked, like, why are you running as a Democrat when they tried to entrap you? And Trump's basically saying, listen, no more Mr. Nice guy.

SPEAKER_31: 1:41:53

Have you considered switching parties?

SPEAKER_21: 1:41:57

Look, I I'm a Democrat. I'm probably one of the most, if not the most, bipartisan Democrat. And as I told some of my Republican friends on the House floor, I vote better than some of the Republicans uh in the Republican caucus, and they agree with me. I I just feel that, you know, I follow the words of President LBJ when he said many years ago, I'm an American, I'm a Texan, and I'm a Democrat in that order. And I think anybody that puts party before their country is doing a disservice to their country.

SPEAKER_31: 1:42:30

Okay, but President Trump is out with a new truth social today on your um on your decision to run again as a Democrat. And the president isn't saying, oh, well, next time, no more Mr. Nice Guy. He's talking about the fact that you are going to continue to work with the same radical left Democrats. What do you want to say about the president's truth social this morning?

SPEAKER_21: 1:42:56

Well, uh again, let me let me just say this. I was at church this morning with my wife. Uh, I prayed for the president, I prayed for his family, and I prayed uh for the presidency because if the president succeeds, the country succeeds. Uh and again, as a probably the most bipartisan individual, I don't vote party. Uh, I vote for what's right for the country. And in fact, you know, when I got that rate by the Biden administration, they did it 40 days uh before a primary, where the far left had spent about or spending total about$20 million that we know of on that. Uh so they did this right before that. So again, I'm I am a conservative Democrat, but I will work with the president. I've reached out to this administration. I told them, you know, name the folks, you know, Tom Holm and Christy, uh, other folks that said, hey, can we sit down? I'd love to sit down and see what we can find common ground. Uh I sit on uh defense appropriations, I sit on homeland appropriations. Uh, and if I can work and find common ground, uh, then I certainly want to do that.

SPEAKER_17: 1:44:09

Common ground is a little different than switching parties. You're still going to be working with that party. I don't know. I I think it's pretty interesting. Uh, with regards to the Seditious Six, Matt Gates, who was in Congress, mind you, met with one of these Pentagon Jag officer top officials, because now he's a Pentagon, you know, correspondent or whatever. And he's asking about the Seditious Six and specifically calling Mark Kelly back up to active duty and kind of the ramifications of that. So I want to play this and then I want to talk about what you think if it's gonna happen or not.

SPEAKER_15: 1:44:40

A lot of discussion with uh Press Secretary Kingsley Wilson yesterday. She called Senator Kelly's uh conduct traitorous, uh seditious. Uh, we understand that there's a legal review underway right now at the Department of the Navy. Uh, one lawyer to another, what are some of the legal factors or legal tests that you would want reviewed in any type of allegation like this?

SPEAKER_07: 1:45:01

Sure. And I'm not part of that review, but you know, my personal opinion, I look at it, you have to go beyond just the video itself. Okay, the video itself has two major problems with it. One is it misstates the law. You know, they keep saying, oh, we're just saying what the UCMJ says. Under the UCMJ, orders are presumed to be lawful, and you only have an obligation to disobey manifestly unlawful orders. Manifestly, meaning it's obvious to anybody that this is an unlawful.

SPEAKER_15: 1:45:30

Well, they were obviously calling for every service member to impose their own moral judgment on every political question.

SPEAKER_07: 1:45:37

Exactly. And so I'll give you an example. Because you start with that video, and then because they haven't defined the unlawful order, you look at their other rhetoric and where they talk about we think that the National Guard deployments are unlawful. We think the Venezuela strikes are unlawful. Okay, so let's take the National Guard. If a soldier gets orders to deploy to Chicago with the National Guard, some politicians say it's unlawful, some don't. There's a debate over it. It is presumed under the UCMJ to be a lawful order, they have to follow it. If a soldier refuses to go to Chicago, they're getting court-martialed to go into jail. Once they get to Chicago, if they're out there on patrol, then the platoon commander says, hey, shoot that protester in the head. Okay, time out. That one is a manifestly unlawful order. That one, everybody on every side of the issue agrees. Everybody knows that's unlawful. That's the manifestly unlawful order that you are required to disobey. And so that's the problem, is that they lowered the video, it lowers the standard of what type of order you're supposed to disobey, leaves it open to interpretation, and then gets filled in through other rhetoric. So I think that the review is going to kind of look at the totality of the circumstances there, but then it's also going to look at the different options available and the feasibility of those options, because recalling a sitting senator to active duty, it has major implications, separation of powers implications. Under the Constitution, you're not allowed to hold office in two branches at the same time. So if you are both an active duty military officer and a sitting U.S. Senator, you're required to resign one of those positions. And in this case, the military would take precedence, so he'd be forced to resign from Congress or from the Senate. So I think that that causes a major separation of powers issue. Yeah, and and I I'm sure that the people in the Navy that are looking at this, you know, General Bly, the Judge Advocate General of the Navy, is a very, very intelligent guy.

SPEAKER_15: 1:47:34

Yeah, but it's it almost reads like an immunity, Tim, because if because if the same conduct were to occur to for someone who didn't have that protection but was subject to recall and military justice, it might be a different analysis.

SPEAKER_07: 1:47:47

And and I think that's one of the concerns is that if you tried it this way, and if he were to litigate it in the district court, you would end up potentially with an order saying that members of Congress are immune.

SPEAKER_17: 1:47:58

So don't try him because you don't want him to be immune, but then you've conceded the premise that he basically is immune because you didn't call him back up to active duty, which creates a double standard for people that don't have a senatorial immunity but have taken that primary oath first, just like Mark Kelly did, but somehow his Senate membership supersedes his responsibility to a lifelong oath. What's gonna happen here, Ron? Do you think you're gonna recall him and cross that bridge as an example?

SPEAKER_19: 1:48:27

This sounds like one of the hardest questions I've ever answered in my life. Because it's it's gonna require so much league. And this is this is why I think nothing is gonna happen, because there's so much legal ease that would be required to describe what is the outcome or the even the possible or potential outcomes that there's so much wiggle room that nothing will happen.

SPEAKER_17: 1:48:47

Nothing will happen. Yeah, that's what I'm concerned with too. Because I'm concerned they're like, well, we don't want that bad ruling, so we're just gonna avoid this whole thing, but then it creates a prima fossa on its face double standard.

SPEAKER_19: 1:48:59

Which is also why something really must happen. Something really should happen.

SPEAKER_17: 1:49:05

Really, he should be put through the process regardless of the outcome. Absolutely. Because yeah, he'll litigate it, but you've had to resign your office, presumably, and presumably it'll take enough time to someone else will be appointed, and you know, it could be a very punishing process. It could create that precedent or not. You know, the other thing is it could create the appropriate precedent that, yeah, everybody is subject to this law.

SPEAKER_19: 1:49:27

You know, on its face, what these six people did is so stupid that I can't believe we're even having to debate it. They should all just be rounded up. You think it would be easy? I mean, they're I mean, when these guys went through this uh little game they did where, well, you know, what if somebody disobeyed orders? You know, if somebody just decided to disobey orders and every piece will every person in the military just decided which orders they would and would not obey, we would not have a military. No, not at all. This is so stupid. Orders are orders, orders are you have to follow all orders, they are legal orders. That's what orders are.

SPEAKER_17: 1:50:07

Presumed lawful. Yeah, exactly. Uh Pony Boy says they never made no big hooplaw about the Clinton double tap with Vince Foster. Totally. All right, so this is Elon Musk being asked about when he bought Twitter, the advertisers kind of came after him because he reinstituted free speech. They're like, we can't advertise to people that believe in free speech, right? And so they threatened to pull their money. Now, Elon Musk had to kind of change the whole business model of X and do a lot of subscriptions by proliferating the blue check marks, all of that I think is great. But his statement here to this MSNBC host, who I forget his name, was very prescient, right? If the cost of free speech is that the advertisers won't advertise, then F up. We're gonna well document and show that the advertisers put a business out of business. So now they can't advertise.

SPEAKER_24: 1:50:55

Obviously, you know that there's a public perception that, and you're clarifying this now, um, but there's a public perception that that was part of an apology tour, if you will. That this had been said online, there was all of the criticism, there was advertisers leaving. We talked to Bob Iger. Oh, please stop. You hope uh don't advertise.

SPEAKER_22: 1:51:16

You don't want them to advertise? No. What do you mean? If somebody's gonna try to blackmail me with advertising, blackmail me with money? Go fuck yourself. Like go fuck yourself. Is that clear? I hope it is. Hey Bob, you're in the audience.

SPEAKER_24: 1:51:41

Let me ask you then.

SPEAKER_22: 1:51:44

That's how I feel. Don't advertise.

SPEAKER_24: 1:51:48

How do you think then about the economics of X? If if if if part of the underlying model, at least today, and maybe it needs to shift, maybe the answer is it needs to shift away from advertising. Um if if you believe that this is the one part of your business where you will be beholden to those who uh have this view, what do you do? Uh why? I I understand that, but there's a reality too. Right? Yes, no, no.

SPEAKER_22: 1:52:21

I mean Linda Yakarino's right here, and she's got to sell advertising. Absolutely. So um no, no, totally so so what so no actually what what this advertising boycott uh is uh is is gonna do, it's it's gonna kill the company. And you think that that's and the whole world will know that those advertisers killed the company and we will document it in great detail.

SPEAKER_24: 1:52:45

But there are those advertisers, I imagine, are gonna say they're gonna say we didn't kill the company. Oh yeah. They're gonna say tell it to Earth. But they're gonna say that they're gonna say, Elon, that's the bus is worth the company because you said these things and that they were inappropriate things and that they didn't feel comfortable on the platform, right? And let's see how Earth responds to that.

SPEAKER_17: 1:53:08

Okay, this then this every time every time Elon Musk has taken a stance for free speech, X has grown. So currently, right now, the EU is trying to find X and Elon Musk a whole bunch of money, and the net result of that is X is now the number one news app in the app store. Okay, because people want free speech, they want unfiltered opinions, they want to decide for themselves. Governments don't want you to do that. Yeah, the CI used to do that, but yeah, we used to poison Americans with pharmaceuticals, but yeah, we used to trap American citizens and weaponize the government against them, but the butt part means you're still doing it. We've gotten better at it, so it's harder to catch. I mean, that's you know, we have our own encrypted chat rooms now. Not everything's subject to FOIA. It's just an it's just a bunch of nonsense. So we can let it burn. If the advertisers want to destroy this country, if the they, the corrupt, the Somalis, the cartels, if they want to destroy this country and our elected politicians want to be in on it, then we're just gonna document the fall and let Earth decide. Should you have killed Julius Caesar or not, Brutus? Was it a good move in the end or not? One of the amazing things about the conspirators is they thought as soon as they killed Julius Caesar, Rome would just, you know, let the power go back to the Senate. Not what happened. Not what happened. All right, guys, that's it for the show today. We'll talk to you again tomorrow. Bye.

SPEAKER_06: 1:54:52

Matt, sorry. What night lift in that car to everyone? I'm 37. What? I'm 37, I'm not old. But I can't just call you Matt. You could say Dennis. I didn't know you were called Dennis. You're supposed to find out, did you? I did say sorry about the old woman, but from behind, you look at you. Supreme executive powers derived from money from the message, not from something like a wedding. But you can't expect a will supreme executive powers, just because the water is ordered. Just because some poison now we see a body of the system, we see a positive system. Do you see a repression? You see what you do.