We Can Love The Country Without Trusting The State

Your phone, your bank account, your kid’s school, and even your sense of national pride are not separate stories. They are one story, and it runs through surveillance power, endless-war incentives, and a money system that quietly taxes you through inflation.

We start with FISA 702 and the core civil liberties problem: tools sold as foreign intelligence can be pointed back at Americans through secret courts, broad queries, and process games that turn “national security” into domestic leverage. From there, we wrestle with why July 4 pride has splintered so sharply, and why many people cannot hear patriotic language without thinking about post-9/11 policy, the Patriot Act, Iraq, Afghanistan, and the way media narratives get laundered into “truth.” We’re not asking you to hate your neighbors or your country. We’re asking what it means to love the land and the people while staying deeply skeptical of the state.

Then we get practical. We talk privacy and personal sovereignty with real tactics: permission control, GrapheneOS style “ghost phone” setups, and why “I have nothing to hide” misses the point. We connect that to money: the Federal Reserve, interest rates, forward guidance, and the blunt admission that inflation is a choice. We also hit Bitcoin, sound money, regulatory pressure like Illinois’ new crypto tax, and why opting out financially can reduce the system’s ability to coerce.

We close with local reality where power becomes tangible: parental rights in schools tied to federal funds, questionable judicial outcomes, and why civic involvement at the county level matters as much as any national election. If you value privacy, free speech, the Constitution, and financial freedom, subscribe, share this with a friend, and leave a review with the biggest question you’re still wrestling with.

Transcript

Welcome, Peasants And Morning Banter

SPEAKER_02 0:42

Peasants, ma'am. We're just peasants. Every one of us. You watch those old movies, you see the peasants in the background with the kings and kings walking around. We're those people. We're those people. Good morning, peasants. Welcome to another episode of The Peasants Perspective. So glad to have you here with us this morning. Brazier is quick to the chats. He says, checking in from Idaho, or we're still we are still trying to decide if potatoes are a side dish, a main course, or a personality trait. I gotta tell you, when uh when my family was moving from Utah to Idaho, I was a freshman. And so I was moving in for my sophomore year, right? And we had a year prior to that, we had just come from California. And when you watch the news in California where we were at in Tracy, you get a lot of like uh you get a lot of news coming out of the Bay Area and stuff. It's like every day it was like drive-by shootings.

SPEAKER_07 1:36

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 1:37

There was violence, there was big things happening. I mean, probably not nearly as much today. I don't think San Francisco was, you know, there was no poop maps that you could download apps or anything, but it was it was rough. The news was hard to watch. And when I moved to Utah, it's a big city, Salt Lake Valley, it's a big city. There's always something big and major going on. Well, when my dad was trying to sell us kids on moving to Idaho, he's like, look, in Idaho, the news has like, you know, biggest ball of yarn. And you know, it was like the Potato Day Festival, and you know, the harvest came in too much this year. He was like trying to tell us how there's there's no crime, nothing bad ever happens in Idaho.

SPEAKER_07 2:12

It was kind of did he sell you on the kids get to get out of school to go do the harvest.

SPEAKER_02 2:16

Yeah, it was like, oh, and look, you could get your driver's license when you're 15. You know, it was awesome. Good morning, pony boy. Glad you made it. Uh at John Attackis on YouTube. It is a good summer. Good morning. Summer is here. I know I'm wearing shorts. It's great. Still kind of chilly, though. Pray the rosary daily, meat and potatoes. Love it from my hometown in Minnesota. How fun is that? You're a transplant to California, pray the rosary daily. Not a lot of you guys, but I understand why you'd want to get out of Minnesota. That makes sense to me. All right, guys. I know why you come in bright and early. You come for the simultaneous sip. And all you need is a cup or a mug or a glass or a tank or a chalice of stein, a canteen, jug, or flask, a vessel of any kind. Fill it with your favorite liquid. This morning I like coffee with a little bit of creamer and fill it. And join me now for the unparalleled pleasure of the dopamine hit of the day. The thing that makes everything better is the simultaneous sip, and it starts right now.

Trump’s Instincts And Power Politics

SPEAKER_22 3:12

There there's an almost like you know, spiritual dimension of where he understands uh whether somebody's telling him the truth or not. He understands whether somebody's trying to pull one over on him or not. But you have people who are constantly coming into the White House and asking for things. And he has this unbelievable ability to sniff out whether this person wants this thing because it's good for America or because he wants it because it's good for him.

SPEAKER_02 3:38

You can get that's a great little assessment by JD Vance. Again, who made the media rounds the last couple days like nobody's business. He was like on every show, it was wild. So, anyways, Jay JD Vance talking about Donald Trump, he's got an uncanny ability to read people. I actually surmise that most presidents have some really unique characteristics, right? And I imagine every one of them is more unique to the than the next.

SPEAKER_07 4:03

Like well, I don't think you gravitate to the most powerful position on the planet without having some kind of instincts.

SPEAKER_02 4:09

Yeah, I even think about Joe Biden, like what an exceptional blackmailer he must have been. You know what I mean? He must have been one of those guys, just no shame, and he could just use everything against you and just ah, he's in there for 50 years.

SPEAKER_07 4:21

He had a lot of time to hone his craft.

SPEAKER_02 4:23

Yeah, I'm for sure. You know, it's always makes me really uncomfortable when a politician says I had to sell my soul. It's right. I remember when Joe Biden early on, I had to sell my soul, I had to go to the rich people and prostrate myself before them. I just recently heard another politician locally had to say the same thing. I had to sell my soul, but not my values. And it was like, I don't know if I like that qualifier. I'm a little bit uncomfortable with that. Anyways, good stuff.

FISA 702 And Surveillance Abuse

SPEAKER_02 4:49

So one of the things that Donald Trump has done is he sniffed out that there's this FISA bill, right? FISA, Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act. And the idea with FISA, when it was pitched to the Americans, the Americans as opposed to the politicians, when it was pitched to America, the idea was that we were going to use this incredible amount of technology that we had to be able to tap everybody's phone calls and everybody's digital communications around the world, but we'll exclude American citizens because you have rights that our government is supposed to protect. But we're going to spy on Al-Qaeda, the future ISIS, we're going to spy on Chechnian terrorists, and you know, we're going to spy on Mexican blackhand gangs. And what we found through 702 is clearly the military uses it for targeting information and stuff like that. But when it comes to the FBI, they seem to have access to this as well, right? And we find we found out under the Christopher Ray administration that in a you know, I can't remember if it was a one-year period, but it was a short time period, it was like 290,000 queries had made been made into the FISA database just on American citizens, let alone those of us who just get our communications scooped up because somebody in a chat room is from another country, or you know what I mean? Like it's it's pretty prevalent. And they use FISA to target President Trump. They use FISA to go after Carter Page, they use the two hop rule. They went into a secret court to get those warrants. And so FISA has absolutely been abused, and it would make perfect sense for us as Americans in defense of our rights to want to get rid of it. However, we're being told, but then you won't be safe. We won't be able to bust terror plots from people trying to attack the UFC fight on the White House lawn that everybody's upset because nobody wants to do anything, dang it, right? We wouldn't be able to bust up those plots. Well, those are Americans, yeah. But they use 702 spying, you know, tools in order to do that. That's the conflict, right? We want to bust terror plots. Absolutely, we want to be able to use that technology to go after the al-Qaidas of the world, but we don't want it to come after us. So how do we split the baby? So Donald Trump has figured out how to split the baby. He's like, okay, if you want this horrible spying bill, then I want the Save America uh act attached. What does that do to the people who want to use 702? It's my belief that the people that want to use and abuse 702 FISA surveillance spying powers are the same cabal of people that try to overthrow our elections and control our country. Does that make sense? Uh yeah. I think it's the same cabal. So he's like, let me let me do the thing that can undo you, legitimize American elections. Well, yeah, I'll give you that power. But by the way, if we get better politicians in and we can appoint better bureaucrats and cabinet secretaries and stuff like that, maybe we just will voluntarily not abuse these tools, which is a possibility. There's also the possibility that if you get good guys in charge, they might use those tools to go after the actual, say it with me, bad guys. Like, for example, when Adam Shift called the Russians and was like, Oh, you have compramat? Yeah, let me get it from. Turns out the only person who colluded with Russians to overthrow the United States government was Adam Schiff himself on a radio show in Russia where they prank called him pretending to have compramat on Donald Trump. So Donald Trump put out this post. He said, A few Democrats are against FISA, with or without Bill Poulte going into DNI. As acting, what kind of deal is that is that? Besides, I'm against FISA. Ah, it's refreshing to hear him say that. I'm against FISA if it doesn't come with the Save America Act. The full version firmly attached to it. Make America great again. Thank you for your attention to this matter. Oh my goodness. Yesterday we we we played the clip in private about uh with Senator Kennedy going, we have a four-car pile up here. You've got FISA, Save America Act, Democrats, Rhino, Rhino Party, and you've got MAGA like Luna and Burkhart who don't want to vote for Pfizer. It's beautiful. We have a total pile up here. So we'll see. Will we see? Part of me is like, they're probably gonna try to pass FISA and put it on the president's desk without Save America up on it. And then it's gonna be, we're gonna find out if Trump really is gonna taco or not. Is he gonna Trump always chickens out? Is he gonna sign it or is he gonna go, nope, I want the Save America Act? In my opinion, this is just lowly little me who doesn't think lightning's ever gonna strike his head, right? I don't I don't plan on being a victim of a terror attack. I don't really go to places where terrorists hang out, I don't think. But uh having had FISA involved in my case, or at least in the entire narrative, I'd like to see FISA go away. I'd like to see, you know, us have to do it the old school way, the hard way. Actually catch bad guys and uh do do the right due diligence.

SPEAKER_07 9:41

And if uh people want to spy on Americans, just make it illegal. I mean come on, man.

SPEAKER_02 9:47

It's crazy. It's it's crazy. The other thing, too, is I don't even know that they need that information domestically, they can just buy most of your commercial data and extrapolate a lot of the same stuff.

SPEAKER_07 9:58

You know, that's the other thought I had is like I don't know why we're arguing about this so hard because they were probably spying on Americans before that, and if it goes away, they'll keep on doing it. It's not like they're gonna stop.

SPEAKER_02 10:09

I think the idea here, and I get this, you can come across evidence that's absolutely damning, but because of how you came across it, you can't get it into court. Sure. Right? So that there's those protections. Like if you don't follow the process, the law to get a warrant, to get this information, you can't get it into court.

SPEAKER_07 10:26

If that's all we were doing, okay, but that's not what's going on.

SPEAKER_02 10:29

Yeah, so so you know, I grew up in a world of echelon. Echelon was an was a from my understanding, was a server farm down in Australia that was run by the United States that was collecting all the worldwide telecommunications. And if you said certain keywords, your phone call got targeted for review, you know. Mickey Mouse is gonna do da-da-da. Oh, those are all keywords, and they could they could target your phone call. But the idea was they wouldn't, there wasn't a way to launder that back into the court system, sure, right? Sure, they can listen to you. And if you're uh talking to a foreigner and you're planning a bomb plot, you might get a knock on the door from somebody. But the like because then they could take that to the court and get a warrant, but they wouldn't just be able to use any other information. Well, now they can pretty much use the information because they have a back door to go take it into FISA and get it into the court system, which is exactly what we saw with the Russia Gate thing. No better example ever than of that. They literally took information that was generated overseas, uh, leaked it. The FBI leaked it to the media, who then published of which they then went to their computers and they went to Yahoo News and Huffington Post, and they hit print. Okay, on the information they had leaked to them, hit print, took it to the court, and then justified all the spying warrants against Carter Page, Papadopoulos, and others. And based on the two-hop rule, pretty soon you're spying on any communication that's coming to, in, or around Donald Trump and the people that he was with.

SPEAKER_07 11:52

Or the USA.

SPEAKER_02 11:53

Yeah, you call the USA.

July 4 Divide And Flag Pride

SPEAKER_02 11:56

So I, you know, I when I came out of college, my close family and friends, they all thought I was like super liberal. And it wasn't that I was liberal in any way, and it wasn't that I wasn't patriotic. I was extremely patriotic. Just like many people, I love the idea of this country. I love the idea of the the nation of the United States. But obviously, like many of us, we sometimes see that it doesn't live up to her promise.

SPEAKER_07 12:20

Well, you were uh you were enrolled in ROTC, weren't you?

SPEAKER_02 12:23

I was.

SPEAKER_07 12:24

That's enough. That should be enough for anybody.

SPEAKER_02 12:27

Yeah, but I didn't I I felt like our country wasn't living up to her promise, right? And a lot of this for me early on centered around the conflict in the Middle East. I didn't feel like we had a justifiable reason to be in Iraq. Where's the yellow cake? You know, where are the weapons of mass destruction? And then turns out in one random cabinet meeting, George Bush is like, oh, we're there for the oil. It's like, oh, okay. I mean, okay, I get all right, we're here for the oil, national security as well. Right. As I get older, I understand how important oil is, but is it really worth a billion Iraqi lives?

SPEAKER_07 12:57

Right now, and I and I brought up the ROTC because this is something that you were contemplating and thinking about a lot. It's not something that was a passing thought.

SPEAKER_02 13:06

Deeply, deeply thinking about. Now, here CNN had to run this piece. This is another Harry Anton polling analysis, and it talks about the difference between Democrats and Republicans, what they what they think the July 4th is all about, and their love of the country, and about the flag. Take a listen to this.

SPEAKER_14 13:24

Are Americans feeling this morning with us now? CNN, chief data analyst. We will always remember Lexington and Concord, people. We will always remember it here on CN Patriots Day versus the Fourth. We know which one is more important, but the meaning of the fourth, when we ask voters about this, what do most of them say at this point?

SPEAKER_13 13:42

This to me is one of the most stunning divides that we have seen. You know, we're talking about polarization in politics. It even comes down to what you believe July 4th actually is. Like, what does July 4th mean to you? Celebrate America, friends and family time. Among Republicans, what do you see? You see the clear majority say it's a time to celebrate America, 65%. Among Democrats, however, the plurality disagreed. Look at that. What do you see? Friends and family time at 42% versus just 24% who say that what it means most to them is to celebrate America. So even on the basic question of what July 4th means to you, we have Republicans on one end saying celebrate America, more of them say that. And Democrats on the other end saying that it means more to them to have time with friends and family.

SPEAKER_02 14:26

What do they say? So for Republicans, the 4th of July is a holiday to celebrate America, right? That is a day for patriotism, it's a day for parades, it's a day for fireworks, as a means of celebration for what America is and everything.

SPEAKER_07 14:40

I thought that's what it was for everybody.

SPEAKER_02 14:43

Clearly, you would have been on that whole side, right? The GOP side. Democrats just view it as another day off. It's just another day off to spend time with friends and family.

SPEAKER_07 14:52

Hey, listen, we all like a day off. Hey, you know, this is a free country and you can do what you want, but if you think that's what 4th of July is all about, get bent. What the hell's wrong with you?

SPEAKER_02 15:02

Now, listen, I understand the sentiment. When it comes, I'll just give you an example. When it comes to Labor Day, listen, I don't go out and celebrate union workers. Okay, I wasn't raised in a tradition, and it's no different from Memorial Day for me. I wasn't, I don't think I've ever visited a grave site on Memorial Day. Just never was something we did. So those days to me are just days off.

SPEAKER_07 15:21

I guess I'm uh biased. I'm exposing my biasedness.

SPEAKER_02 15:25

Yeah, I mean, I but I talk to people all the time on Memorial Day that are like, oh, I'm gonna go to the grave and we're gonna oh okay. Well, I just I mean, I'd literally have nobody locally that I know that's in the grave that I would go visit, you know. For moving around so much, there wasn't like, you know, people that were related to me that were nearby that we would go visit. So it was really just a day at the lake, right? You know, so, anyways, I can understand this, I can understand this, but it also does show that the Democrats have kind of lost the plot a little bit.

SPEAKER_13 15:51

It continues.

SPEAKER_02 15:52

But the flag.

SPEAKER_13 15:53

Yeah, okay. So what do they say about the flag? Even on the basic level of flag, look at this. Look at how we have an increasing polarization on this issue. We'll display the flag on July 4th, the American flag. Back in July of 2001, look at this. You had 68% of Republicans, 65% of Democrats saying that they would in fact display the flag on July 4th. You come over to this side of the screen, Republicans basically are where they were 25 years ago, right? 64%. But look at that Democratic percentage absolutely plummeting. Just 27% of Democrats say they will, in fact, display the flag on July 4th. Democrats and Republicans in different camps, even on the simple question of displaying the flag on July 4th, a polarization, a split that simply put did not exist a generation ago. What about the sloganeering?

SPEAKER_14 16:45

About proud to be an American. Okay, what about this idea? Are you proud to be an American? So this is really interesting, right?

SPEAKER_02 16:51

Flag this is really interesting. 2001, flag flying was pretty much equivalent, right? You had most people just loved America, vast majority of people. They'd fly a flag on the 4th of July. Now it's one in four Democrats. Okay, now it's six out of ten.

SPEAKER_07 17:07

What is going on, America? Where's the patriotism?

SPEAKER_13 17:10

Yeah. American, extremely or very proud to be an American. Again, look at this divide, a growing divide on this question. Back in January of 2001, 90% of Republicans, 85% of Democrats. This was after a very contentious 2000 election, keep in mind, right? With George W. Bush coming into the White House.

SPEAKER_02 17:30

I want to point something out here. January 2001, half the country still didn't have an email address.

unknown 17:37

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 17:37

January 2021. Yeah, you're right. Half the country didn't have a personal computer. Half the country wasn't on the internet at all. Okay. Like the the we still don't have ubiquitous, uh, everybody's online one way or the other.

SPEAKER_07 17:52

You don't have to online zeitgeist didn't really exist.

SPEAKER_02 17:57

There's no social media, doesn't exist, right? So how do you get your news? Local papers.

SPEAKER_07 18:02

BBS, ABC, NBC.

SPEAKER_02 18:04

5 p.m. news, right? We're still deep into mockingbird media, zeitgeist, right? Everybody's everybody's playing off the same sheet of music. And one thing the Democrats and Republicans always did was love America, right? That's what ties us together. Keep voting. What happens at the end of 2001?

9/11 Aftermath And Endless War

SPEAKER_02 18:22

September 11th, 2001. September 11th, 2001. Prior to this, political scandals were isolated to politicians, Bill Clinton. Yes. Right. Political scandals were isolated to little incidents. Iran contra scapegoat, right? But the news media, the politicians, they all get in line. Yep, fixed it, moved on. Fixed it, moved on. Right? That is how the world operated. Fast forward to 9-11, and what happened? ISA got passed. Oh. The Patriot Act got passed. We got involved in an endless war in the Middle East. So for 20 years, we were fighting in Afghanistan and Iraq and then into Syria. We saw a huge devaluation of our currency. We saw the No Child Left Behind Act get passed, which was the start of parental control and erosion in our country. We we literally socialized education and took states' choices and school boards' choices away by tying everything in the school to money, right? To money. You only get federal funds, which by the way, you know, now that we hold the tools of power, we're using money to try to coerce schools. We'll cover that at the end of the show. So that happens. So liberals who tend to be more about personal rights and individual rights, they become very upset at the state. This is the camp I fell in, right? Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. We're killing people overseas over oil. Why don't we just drill more oil here? You got the environmentalists shutting down the stuff, and we're over there fighting and you know, losing blood and treasure and killing other people in the process. So you can see, fast forward to 2026, how proud to be American, the Democrats who were the original anti-war people, have become disgusted with the country. Disgusted. Right? Now we look at that and we're like, oh, they just don't have American pride. Why would they? I want to ask yourself, why would they? Even people like me who are conservative to their core would on the surface, when other people look at it, listen, I'm committed to the truth. And once I understood the truth of what was going on in the Middle East, don't you come to me about some military appreciation day? You see what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_03 20:35

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 20:36

Like I just view you as another Roman soldier.

SPEAKER_03 20:38

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 20:39

Okay. So they are further along on this path. Now, obviously, that's not a good thing, because if you hate the country, it's hard to save the country. You see what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_07 20:49

You know what's interesting about that is when I think about Fourth of July, I completely in my mind skip over the Middle East, all that stuff. I skip over it and I skip over. I don't necessarily skip over Vietnam, but I I kind of my brain kind of goes straight to World War II and Korea and those conflicts where I feel like there was some kind of mental justification. Totally understandable. You know what I mean?

SPEAKER_02 21:15

Yeah, the Zeitgeist told us those were completely justifiable conflicts. Yeah. And whether or not they really were. You could go and make a lot of arguments about World War II, whether it was worth it or not. But once we started uncovering concentration camps, and yes, I'm in the camp that there were concentration camps killing Jews and gypsies and outcasts in Germany and Eastern Europe, right? Then all of a sudden it's like, oh, this was justified. This was a moral cause. Now, for students of history, you go, okay, that was justified, but why didn't we do anything about the Holdermore and the 20 million Ukrainians that were starved out by Stalin? Our new ally or frenemy. Does that make sense?

SPEAKER_05 21:53

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 21:54

Of course, the the moral card can only get played if you actually maintain your morality forever. So you got to find some. Other morality, right? You got to find some other morality. Okay. So it makes sense to me why Democrats were at the front edge of this. This is why people like Edward Snowden identified as Democrats. And what did they expose? Some of the worst things our country did. There's a movie that I watched in prison called, I think it's called The Report. And, you know, the blank reports, the torture report is cross-back. And it was Diane Feinstein, staff member, and he has a prominent name. He comes up every now and then from the news, but he's he's become a very prominent Democrat lawyer. But he was in charge of finding out about all the torture that was happening in Guantanamo Bay and how, you know, we hired these consultants and they came down and they're waterboarding and electroshocking and keeping people up all night and putting violent dogs in people's faces. Some people died in Guantanamo under torture. And he was exposing all of this. Of all the torture they did, do you know how many leads they got that led to other other terrorists? Zero.

SPEAKER_04 22:55

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 22:55

Right? Do you know how many people they grabbed off the streets and took down? Like there was a there was one, I think it was in Michigan. Guy went to an ATM machine, and apparently this ATM machine was where someone else had used the ATM that was suspected to be a terrorist. And this guy had a Muslim last name. So they came and they blackbagged him, took him off the street, grabbed his kids, grabbed his wife, took them off the street. The kids and wife were innocent. They dumped them back out into the community like a week or two later, and they're going, We just got taken captive. Nobody listened. Where's dad? Where's dad? Where's dad? Where's dad? Where's dad? Couple years later, he pops up. He'd been down in Guantanamo Bay getting tortured. What was his crime? Using an ATM machine where another suspected terrorist had been using an ATM machine. And did you know about this story? Of course not. Hard to be proud. Hard to be proud, right? Some innocent guy just taken off the street, black bag, thank you, Patriot Act. So I get it. I'm not justifying hate for America. I'm just saying I can understand how you could get those numbers down there. Now, the conservatives, right? The Republican Party, up until very recently with MAGA, up until very recently with MAGA, has been dominated by boomers. In 2021, what was the half of America that didn't have email addresses? The boomers. The internet exposed these lies. Let's continue.

SPEAKER_13 24:14

Come over to this side of the screen in 2026. Look at this. Again, the Democratic percentage absolutely plummets to just 29% of Democrats say they're extremely very proud to be an American. That Republican percentage, the exact same. 90 and 90, the Democratic percentage. What is that? That's basically a third of the level that it was just 25 years ago.

SPEAKER_14 24:36

I think you're right to point out this was a time when Democrats might have been feeling badly about the course of the country. Still, 85% said they were proud to be American. Something's changed.

SPEAKER_13 24:45

Something has absolutely changed, despite the fact the contentious time then, a contentious time now, and yet Democrats, that extremely very pride number, has absolutely plummeted.

SPEAKER_02 24:53

I can tell you the thing that changed more than anything else was the 20-year war in the Middle East. That is the thing that changed. The younger generations who skewed liberal anyways were online and they got to see that war play out very differently than the people who watched it play out only watching Fox News. They got to see it play out very differently. If you watch Fox News, you never saw the videos coming out of Abu Abu uh Abu Abu Grab, Abu Dhabi, not Abu Dhabi, but the uh prison.

SPEAKER_07 25:23

Abu Grave.

SPEAKER_02 25:24

Abu Gra. What is it?

SPEAKER_07 25:25

Abu Grave.

SPEAKER_02 25:26

Yeah, Abu Grave. You never saw those videos. Fox News didn't play them. Neither did CNN, neither did MSNBC.

SPEAKER_25 25:32

But I saw them. I saw him.

SPEAKER_02 25:37

It's hard to get excited about a soldier in uniform when you watch one of those videos and you see what they were doing in uniform.

SPEAKER_06 25:43

Right?

SPEAKER_02 25:43

It's hard. War is horrible. War is horrible and it brings out the worst in everybody. Like, you know, again, I'm I I want to say I'm a patriot as much as anybody else. I want to fight for this country. Okay. But at the same time, we're talking about the nation, the political association, the United States of America, the government, I'll join with the liberals and say I'm highly suspect. Right? I will join with the liberals and say I'm highly suspect.

COVID Distrust And The Lab Debate

SPEAKER_02 26:10

We just lived through another huge major crisis in America. It was COVID, 2020. Nobody was not impacted by COVID. We still drive around and see people wearing masks inside their cars by themselves. See people walking down the street on a sunny day wearing a mask. By the way, I've got to travel the country a little bit recently. You see the masks everywhere. It's not like I was in Missouri and some dude's wearing a mask in the gas station. I'm like, all right, whatever. You know what I mean? Like, go for it. Now, conservatives understanding.

SPEAKER_07 26:38

Maybe it's just a fashion choice at this point.

SPEAKER_02 26:40

Yeah, conservatives under Donald Trump's leadership have blamed it all on China. It's all China manipulating viruses. Wuhan came out of China, China. Now, there's an interesting variation that's a conspiracy, that there's actually a China Ukraine spelled the Y, C Y, or C-H-Y-N-A, and that happens to be one of where one of these biolabs is. So there's there's this conspiracy that Trump was trying to tip us off, that the virus actually came out of China, Ukraine, and not China, the nation, China, right? I don't know about that, but we do know this. Tulsi Gabber just released all that inform all this information about the virus. Now keep in mind, we're talking love of our nation, right? We're talking about do gooders. We're talking about ultimate morality, where we put individual rights so much so that we will weaponize the collective to protect you, the individual. That's a powerful concept that our founding fathers gave us. So you would think that we would not do things as a nation that could potentially kill the world or destroy the world's economy or something like that. That we would, we would, we would hold those tools for the most precise of things. Well, Tulsi Gabber just revealed that it was in fact the United States who created the COVID-19 virus. Here it is, unclassified, defense advanced research and projects, 13th of August 2021. We knew this in 2021. Go down here, says, you know, references, all this stuff. SARS CoV 2, COVID-19 is an American created recombinant vaccine. Or it's precursor virus. It was created by an Eco Health Alliance program at the at the Wuhan Institute of Virology. We paid for it, we sent scientists over to it with it, and we did it overseas. Why? Because we're sneaky puffers.

SPEAKER_07 28:27

Too bad we couldn't have read this letter in August of 21.

SPEAKER_02 28:31

Could have done something about it, right? Okay, why? Because we're sneaky puffers. We're sneaky puffers. There's yellow K can Iraq. No, there's oil.

unknown 28:41

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 28:42

We're sneaky puffers. As suggested by the reporting surrounding the lab leak hypothesis, the details of this program have been canceled since the pandemic began. These details can be found in the Eco Health Alliance proposal, response to DARPA preempt program, broad agency announcement dated March 18th, 2020, March 2018. A document not yet publicly disclosed. Oh oh oh. So there we have it. Right?

Government Versus People And Psyops

SPEAKER_02 29:09

I make this point, and this is part of why we're peasants. It doesn't actually matter to me if you're a Republican or Democrat. It doesn't matter to me. Right? Those are political debates. You want to talk about tax rates, how big or small the social safety net should be. You want to talk about, you know, should we spend money filling potholes or should we build a new stadium? That's a big debate, right? I mean, there's all kinds of debates we can have about how we, the people, want our states, our cities, our counties, and our country to be. Those are great. But we unify under this idea that America provides freedom, America provides all this stuff. But when you start digging down the rabbit hole, you start to wonder, man, it does feel like it's always the government versus the people. And every now and then when the government needs the people to get on board, we see a psyop, we see a spin, we see a story. The yellow cake. We gotta go get the yellow cake and people get lied to. The terrorists, we get lied to. Okay. But once you know that you've been lied to, it's hard to unsee it. If they try to run another, you know, worldwide virus, it could be legitimate. And we're all gonna look at that and go, yeah, right. Foyer the FOIA the bank records. We probably paid for it. The boys crying wolf again. Crying wolf. You're gonna see all the Republicans lose their minds. Okay. Republicans want to fight for the country for the sake of the country and what she could represent. Yeah. Democrats have become highly aware of what she is.

unknown 30:34

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 30:36

Money machine. Yes. Now, I'm not justifying communism. I'm not justifying the hate for your country to the point that you take action against your country. I could never justify that, right? But we as peasants, we have to sit back and realize we have way more in common with your local neighbor who just happens to vote Democrat, right? We have way more in common than with them than we don't. And but we have to also acknowledge the fact that they might see things differently than we do. Right? They might see things differently than we do. There is in Minnesota 15 people who have been indicted for crimes against the state, and you know, they're part of this Antifa plot group. Well, this is one of the people who was indicted in that group of 15 people.

SPEAKER_18 31:21

And I've never been violent, I've never had trouble with the law. Um, I just the only thing I did was care about this, my community and my neighbors. Um, and I wouldn't against the government's violence um to our communities and to try to mitigate and help those affected because I could have said the same thing on January 7th.

SPEAKER_02 31:45

I'm feeling it, yeah. I could have said the same thing on January 7th, right? Once you see our what our government does over there, why wouldn't they do it over here? Right? They don't care. Uh yeah, I I don't like the hair. I don't like the the look. She clearly looks like someone that probably isn't gonna run in my social circles. Probably not, but she's actually like, I've never been in trouble with the law, but I want to protect who? My community from who? The boogeyman. Yeah, and who's the boogeyman? It's the guys in badges that abuse their power. This is the really unfortunate thing about this show. It's hard because on one hand, we want to be, you know, space, space race team player one. Yeah. We want to get on board and we want to play the team game and stuff like that. But on the other hand, hey man, this there's real world impacts. You know, it was very difficult for me to sing the national anthem when I was in prison with the other J6ers. I that was really hard for me. I was like, okay, guys, I mean, I I get it. We're trying to we're trying to see through the the fog that we're in, but this story's not told yet. This might end up being just another nasty empire.

SPEAKER_07 32:56

I think when it comes to things like that, you have to sing because you have to sing for the country that you want. You have to take it back.

SPEAKER_02 33:02

Yeah, and I came to that conclusion ultimately right. I came to that conclusion. But I understand, like, hey, I want to protect my community. Now what we view is who we're protecting, okay, maybe she goes a little too hard for protecting the 1% transgenders, you know, whatever the case is. Okay. But nonetheless, listen, directionally, we get it. We have to fix this place. If you listen to a Bernie Sanders stump speech and you break it down to some bullet points of the problems, and you listen to a Donald Trump 2016 Trump speech and you break it down to the bullet points of the problems. Guess what? Same problems.

SPEAKER_07 33:36

Yeah. Have you seen that clip where that guy's describing that you you know you have to really abuse a mammal to get it to get it to stop breeding? Yes. It's this is the same type of thing where we're being abused to the level where we don't know how to be patriotic.

SPEAKER_02 33:53

Exactly. And and keep in mind, make America great again as if she isn't currently right. This theme of we've lost our course. This is this is where we have to unify. If you really want to change things, we have to agree we've lost our course. Now we get back to first principles. What does the constitution say about the structure of government? What does the bill of rights say about individual liberties? If we can unify with our neighbors on this, the fact that North Kittsap has a representative that's running against the incumbent Democrat who is a Democrat who carries a pocket constitution. This is what I'm talking about. Right? Yes, we've lost the plot. We have lost the plot. How do we unify? Now the story for her gets a little bit more sad because now she's a targeted person. They've been terrorizing us.

SPEAKER_18 34:41

And I can't just sit there and not do anything, but I definitely would never do anything illegal. Like and it just it sickens me and it makes me really sad that this is happening to me and others because none of us deserve this. Because all we want to do is create a better world, a better community.

SPEAKER_17 35:04

Well, they have unfairly characterized her as a fugitive in the media. She is far from a fugitive, uh, she's a wonderful person, a wonderful citizen. And I've never been violent, I've never had trouble with okay, Taylor.

SPEAKER_07 35:17

If you would just read that script, that would be you.

SPEAKER_02 35:22

Yes, that's what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying.

SPEAKER_07 35:25

She could she could be a J Sixer.

SPEAKER_02 35:28

Yes, yes. This this is the point. People can't sometimes figure why I don't want to be on a team, why I don't want to join the Proud Boys, or I don't want to join the Oath Keepers. And sometimes I'm critical of them. Because those groups start to get into these nonsense stuff. He's me and I am her. Right. I don't know anything about what she's actually advocating for. For all I know, she's super, you know, wants illegal immigrants living next door. Sure. That's a policy debate. Right. That's a policy debate. Now, I don't know what kind of action she took. I don't know if she's just another one of these guilty by association people because she's in the chat room. I don't know how incendiary her comments were. But hey, just like I was saying yesterday, or actually I was saying it in 1776 Live, I've had my throwaway comments read back to me in a courtroom and they looked horrible. Burn it down, you know, hash fire tag emoji, burn it down, right? I didn't actually mean burn down DC, I just meant burn down the uh the the representation of the Imperial City that lords over us, right? I should have typed it all out like that. Instead, I just went hashtag emoji fire it down.

SPEAKER_07 36:41

Hey man, you were busy, you had places to be.

SPEAKER_02 36:44

Yeah, so I just, you know, I try to bring it back to a policy point, back to a debate about what it is that we want to accomplish and if these policies are going to work and stuff like that. But at the same time, yes, Ron, you could take that transcript, and that could have been me standing out the court. In fact, I'm pretty sure I said all those same words. I've never been in trouble, I've never broken the law, I would never advocate to break the law. If if they if they would have, if the police would have gotten on a bullhorn and said, You can't stand here, I would have left. They never told me not to be there until even after they beat us with the baton and pepper sprayed us, I went back to the exact same spot and they still didn't tell me to leave.

SPEAKER_07 37:26

When uh I assumed that the gal next to her was her attorney. Yeah. I was like, man, that could have been your attorney. I mean, the same words. I know. The exact same words.

SPEAKER_02 37:37

Yes. And the reason I'm saying this is again, I want to fall into the camp of loving my country, but I refuse to fall into the camp of blindly following the nation, right? And by nation, I mean the political construct that is the United States of America. The country is Alaska, Washington, Oregon, California, Nevada, over to Florida, up to Maine. It's the four corners of the 48, plus the extra two states, plus the territories. That's the country, the land and her people. I cannot be separated from the land. I belong to it. From dust I come to from to dust I go, right? That is worth fighting for. My neighbors, my community members, that is worth fighting for. That is why I stood up on January 6th, because I felt like our nation was being stolen from the country of whom she rightfully belongs.

SPEAKER_07 38:30

Correct. Regardless of what political entity was creating or causing the problem.

SPEAKER_02 38:35

I could be totally happy with Joe Biden in office, no matter how corrupt I thought I was, if I actually believed that that election was fair. Yeah. Right? If I actually believed it was fair. So I stood up for her. And I was someone who was very outspoken for the Muslim community. And I very much dislike the religion of Islam, right? But I spoke up for the Muslim community. Why? Because I saw the abuses after 9-11. I studied them. I became high-I was I was one of the first generations to fully adopt the internet. I got to see the torture videos in Iraq that the boomers didn't get to see. You know, it was hard to, hey, listen, you know, the president says he's got he's got intelligence, and you know, I mean, the church I went to, our church leader literally said, trust the government because they have better intel than we do. Okay. Do they know where the yellow cake's at? You know what I mean? Like, okay. That's my my my my genesis there is this. It's not that I support the Democrats or the communists. I think they're crazy. I think they can do an incredible amount of damage. I think that their policies will lead to all kinds of depravity and hopelessness for our nation. And the ruin of this country. And the ruin of this country. But I understand why. I understand why, which is why we have to MAGA this place. We have to make America great again. Not some conglomerate, not break it up, not have a national divorce or a civil war. We have to go back to first principles. That's what it boils down to. We have to figure out how to go back to first principles so we can fix the Patriot Acts. So we can fix the No Child Left Behind Act. So we can fix the, you know, the numerous abuses that have been levied against us through the policy and our legislatures. We have to take it back. I would love to see a coalition, which there was a lot of Democrats, right? Remember, there was the uh the documentary they did that had Amy Klobuchar in it. Even Kamala Harris made a cameo in it talking about how elections were problematic with the machines and all this stuff. Suddenly Joe Biden gets in and they're like, it works. Elections are great. And now the Republicans that we have control of the apparatus and Liberty Vote bought the machines from Dominion, and Liberty Vote is owned by a conservative out of Missouri. We're like, stop talking about the machines.

SPEAKER_07 40:59

They work. And the company's name for Liberty, so geez. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 41:02

And meanwhile, you know, our politicians are like, yeah, Republicans are going to win the midterms. The polling doesn't show that. Republicans are going to win the midterms. I have a feeling you're just going to steal it for you now. Right. So, in response to the 15 people being indicted in Minnesota, people showed up at the courthouse and made their voices heard. Well,

Opting Out And First Principles

SPEAKER_02 41:29

having been one of those people, I just say, take it and smile, take it and smile, folks. The solution to this is simple. It took me 20 years to come to it. You have to opt out. You have to participate with all of your heart. You've got to get involved locally. But when it comes to you and your house, there's that old scripture, right? Uh, me and my house, we will you can serve whatever gods you want, but for me and my house, we're gonna serve the Lord. Okay. You have to make your own decisions. There's some ways that you can opt out, that you can remove your acquiescence to the system because the system, we're all deeply involved in it. We all prop it up by using money, by using dollars. We all prop it up by continuing to go to the courts. And I'm not saying there's not room for courts. We have to have courts, but you know, go to courts to be litigious instead of trying to settle our differences face to face. You know, how many neighbors have been, neighborhoods have been destroyed because two neighbors had a property dispute and they couldn't work it out. So they went to court and then it becomes this thing that's much larger than they can handle. This happens every day. Okay. So how do you opt out? The solution is simple. Go back to first principles. If you have a duty to speak and have a right to have your voice heard, then you have a duty to speak, First Amendment. If you have the right to self-defense, then you have a duty to defend yourself, second amendment. If you have a right to not have soldiers in your house spying on you and manipulating your life, then you have a duty to do that. I I got my ghost phone. You know what's funny? I actually spend way less time on my phone now with the ghost phone than ever before. You know why? Less engagement. It's less engagement. The advertisers can't target me to keep me on there. You know what else? The refresh rate on the screen doesn't hypnotize you. Oh. I literally can just put my phone down. I'm not like screen attached to it. I didn't realize I didn't even know how big of an effect that was. Right? Is that is that a setting you can change on your phone? You can't, but on the ghost phone, it's the the refresh rate isn't there. In fact, I'm constantly like having to turn up the brightness because it's like, oh I'm I'm I'm bored. It's like maybe it's because I can't read it. No, it's plenty bright enough. But they got the hard so funny. They got the refresh rate to the point where it doesn't hypnotize you. I don't want to have the government constantly listening. I I know my microphone's off. I know my camera's off. I can control that, right? Ghost phones, mark37.com. Fourth amendment. I have a right to be successful. Secure in my persons, papers, and things, that means I have a duty to be. Right? It means I have a duty to be. I think we have a duty to get rid of FISA. Yes. Well, you know how you get rid of FISA? Here you go. Make it hard. Yeah. Right. You don't want them tracking you. Make it hard. Make personal decisions. When it comes to money, right? How do you opt out of the war machine? This is one of the huge things I found amongst Bitcoiners. Universally anti-war. I fit in. Yeah. Right. Universally anti-war, universally personal sovereignty. And not in the weird sovereign citizen sense, but in the real tangible, like, hey, I want to hold my gold. You know, there's a lot of boomers that are gold bugs and silver, silver bugs, and they've got physical silver. Essentially useless, right? But I understand the sentiment. You want to hold your wealth. Well, Bitcoin allows you to do the thing. This

Privacy Tools Bitcoin And Second Passports

SPEAKER_02 44:49

is Luke DeWolf, and he's the author of a book called Defending Bitcoin. Talks about privacy, right? And he talks about how you can become anonymous in the Bitcoin ecosystem and in the digital space. It's incredibly important for us to follow this lead. If you want to fix the world, fix the money. And you know how you fix the money? Start using the alternative.

SPEAKER_00 45:08

Opting out is the main thing you can do here, right? Pulling your energy from the system. Jeff Booth talks about this all the time. And just just getting getting yourself out of fiat and taking your energy out of that system takes away the control that they have, right? So move your energy into Bitcoin. But the other thing is we have to live in the real world, right? We have to live in these places. And resisting tyranny, resisting ways that that coercion can be used against all of us. At the end of the day, there's there's a lot of ways to be coercive in the uh in the financial system, right? Now a practical thing, and this this might not be like a super popular idea, but uh getting a second passport is just one defense against regulatory measures that that might not be super nice, right? Uh if you have a second means of of getting out of your country if you're if you're uh targeted for some reason or there's legislation that you just absolutely can't live with, having a second passport that you can use. I mean, uh there are a lot of plans, uh especially for people in the states if you have ancestry from uh from a handful of countries where you can go get citizenship through ancestry for that country, right? Something I highly recommend. Um I'm basically going and doing it and getting it getting an EU passport, which might not sound great, but compared to a Canadian one, I think it's a pretty good step. And then and then the the whole thing with uh uh uh you you you can basically just buy uh another passport from uh Caribbean island or or a bunch of other places, right? So So yeah, at the end of the day, just uh resisting politically is is is one thing, but there's only so much you can do in a democracy and a democratic system. And uh advocating for you, your friends, your family to just opt out, get out of the system, and and have backups. Like everything else has a backup. So that's this uh uh plan B passport system, which uh which I talked about, just have options. And so uh it's not perfect. Uh the world is in a pretty crazy place. Farm world is a good word for it, and we're we're really trying to fight back here as Bitcoiners, right? Fight for our sovereignty, fight for our freedom. And I'm I'm optimistic in in in some ways, and in a lot of ways, Stephen. Uh, but it it is definitely going to be a fight, and the political regulatory fight is is something that could go for the remainder of our lifetime. And I'm just hoping that that Bitcoin can suck enough energy out of the system that it it can no longer cease to function as a as a tool of oppression.

SPEAKER_02 48:00

And that's the idea. Opt out. Opt out, right? Ponyboy asked a good question. Pony Boy said, with that phone, do you use a normal provider like Verizon and just have the phone, or do they provide phone and service? Okay, so the ghost phones are phones that are they're you typically Google Pixel phones and they strip off the Google. I mean, they strip it down to the hardware and then they upload onto it a Linux-based operating system called Graphene OS. And that allows you to have an unbelievable amount of flexibility. The whole thing is open source. And what does that mean? Open source developers can see what's happening with the phone, and they can, you know, make it so that advertisers can't watch what you're doing. You can sandbox your app. So yeah, you have you have to have some app, Uber. When I was traveling, I had to download Uber to pick up an Uber, which I ended up not doing. My wife ordered it for me, but I downloaded the app Uber, logged in, did the thing. I put it into a sandbox. Did you know Uber wants access to your microphone, your camera, your contacts, your photos?

SPEAKER_07 48:57

It's like, what does it why does Uber all the apps want all the access? All the access, right?

SPEAKER_02 49:03

It lists it when you download an app because it's open source, the people have gone through the code, it lists all the permissions it's going to ask for, all the things it's gonna access on your phone. And in the background, by the way. Okay. So I was able to put it in a sandbox so Uber couldn't see what I had in my photo gallery. They couldn't.

SPEAKER_07 49:20

Yeah, if you see some of the code lines on some of these like apps that are just like games and whatever, you'll be like, Man, who wrote this? NASA? Yeah, exactly.

SPEAKER_02 49:29

Anyways, it's great, but you can put it on any phone carrier because you just they can take SIM cards. So you just literally, if you've got a SIM card on your phone, you literally just pull the SIM card out, put it in this phone, turn it on, it works.

SPEAKER_07 49:41

It's just like a jailbroke phone.

SPEAKER_02 49:43

And they they offer training too. There are, for example, Patriot Mobile will not disclose user or um user information that is not required through warrant, right? So they they they get some data, but they won't track it beyond or they won't do anything with it, they won't resell your data. So you can always switch to Patriot Mobile and they go with all the carriers, but they become a buffer between you and ATT and you and Verizon, and they don't literally take that data and sell it to advertisers, they make their money from your subscription to their service. There's another one, I think it's called freely, and it's another service that the only piece of information that they track from you is your zip code. That's the only identifier. So when the big big daddy company like ATT or Verizon says, hey, there's a geocache warrant for all the phones in that area, the only thing they'll provide is your zip code. That I that phone number, right, belongs to this zip code. That's the only thing they track in their system. So you can even you can even go a little bit deeper in your privacy depending on your carrier. I'm just using my normal carrier. But now I have the attitude I don't really have anything to hide except for me. I'm the only thing that needs to hide. I don't have anything I need to hide. I just need to hide me, my individual self, right? So yeah, it's great. And uh you just buy the phone, they're refurbished and they come preloaded. If you buy it from Mark 37, use promo code LIVE1776. It's in the show notes. Uh, they they provide the phone, it's preloaded, and they have a really nice tutorial that's step by step. Obviously, you have to migrate over, changing phones. If you're an Apple person, migrating to a Linux space is a little bit hard. Is there's a couple hiccups, right? Because Apple is such a tight ecosystem. But if you have an Android phone, switching over is relatively easy. Yeah, easy. Yeah, anyways, but you have a duty to do it. The government isn't going to do it for you. This has been proven. Okay. This has been proven. They might make a law that says they can't spy on you, but there's no law that says they can't buy your data. Okay. And what is spying, anyways? I bought it commercially, right? Another big thing, too, right? As when we're in the system, specifically in the money system, suddenly things like the interest rates and the Federal Reserve become all important parts of your life. I remember the International Court of Crimes or whatever that was going after a bunch of child crimes around the world. They had a banker from Italy come in. And this maybe he was from Brussels. I can't remember. But, anyways, he came in and he had risen to the level of the internet in the international banking community to the point where he was invited to a party where they were killing a child. Oh. Yes. And these were bankers. These were bankers. Oh. Yep. Yep. And he broke down, became a whistleblower, his life was destroyed for it. But he just he could that was a step too far. But he said as he climbed the ladder, they would do things like they would shift monetary policy in the European Union and they would destroy a country. They destroyed Greece. They tried to destroy Italy. And they would laugh about the fact that lots of small business owners would go bankrupt and then their businesses would be bought up by bigger businesses who, of course, were in bed with the big banking cartels. Right. And they would laugh about it. They'd read a headline saying some business owner committed suicide. Then sucker. Right. And so that attitude was so permissive. Popped out. Opped out. Right.

The Fed Inflation And Rate Reality

SPEAKER_02 53:03

Yesterday, the Federal Reserve announced their interest rate change, cut or not change. We'll get there in a second. I'll suspense. This is Peter Navarro before that meeting talking about what the Fed should do. Again, monetary policy matters to everybody unless you can figure out how to opt out.

SPEAKER_08 53:21

Look, I just would ask the media who hate Trump and you want rates to raise and spin the inflation songs. It's just go back and look at two pieces of history. One is the Bernanke Greenspan positions. When there were oil price shocks, they did not raise rates. In fact, Greens uh Bernanke lowered them going into 2007.

SPEAKER_02 53:46

That's when he says an oil price shock. So inflation is classically defined as cost of goods going up. Why do cost of goods go up? Under a gold standard, it goes up because the inputs to get it, the gold mine or uh the inputs to get it are running up. You're buying salt, salt was cheap, the salt mine is now out of salt, salt is more scarce, the price of salt goes up. Okay, that's natural inflation. And it happens when whatever you're buying becomes scarce. Because we have made it to where you can um, because we have made it to where things are abundant, right? They're not hardly scarce at all. Prices typically don't go up because there's not enough TVs on the shelf at Walmart. Prices don't typically go up because we're running out of salt in your local salt mine. We just pull it from another salt mine and ship it over here, right? We have this incredible worldwide economy where goods are moving all over the world. So typically there's no shortage of goods, but there can be a shortage of things like oil or a high cost of oil, which goes into everything transportation, all that kind of stuff. So that price raising is actually organic, right? It's actually happening because the cost of production is going up, not because what inflation has become under the Keynesian law of economics. There's too many dollars being printed that are chasing those goods, right? If an if a pound of salt costs $10 and there's only $1,000 in circulation, it's 10% of the economy, or it's 1% of the economy. If we put $2,000 into uh circulation and we haven't added any more commodities, then that is still 10% or 1% of the economy. Now that pound of salt's gonna cost $20. Did the salt mine run out of salt? No. Is it more scarce? No. But there's more dollars chasing that one pound of salt, the 1% of the economy, and therefore the price naturally has to double. And so the Fed, who just assumes that all inflation is caused by them, right? Will when inflation goes up naturally, then their instinct is to what? Turn off the money printer, slow down the supply of dollars, make it harder to get new dollars. Okay. That is the way that the Fed has operated. The problem is, is if you raise rates in in the face of organic inflation due to a supply shock like oil costing more because it became more scarce with the closure of the Strait of Hormoots, you actually work against the market. Well, that's the moment when you need to print money, right? And so that's what Peter Navarro was pointing out is there have been some Fed governors who kept rates the same or even lowered them when organic inflation was happening and when they and they could recognize the difference when it was fake inflation. What we saw under uh Jerome Powell, for example, the Inflation Reduction Act, which was really the Inflation Increasing Act, they actually lowered rates when there was more money chasing, so they added more money to the market. Opposite what you do.

SPEAKER_08 56:42

The other piece of history is your point, Steve, which was an excellent one. There's never been a time in history when we've had a Fed chair stay on who was both hostile to the sitting chair and had a majority of members to be a shadow chair. So that's what this particular two days is going to be about. We are gonna see whether Jay Powell is gonna exercise authority as a shadow chair using people who are frankly of low IQ in a majority and do stupid stuff like raising rates.

SPEAKER_02 57:22

That's right. Right? A, because they're low IQ as to what's really happening, and B, because they just hate Trump, and low rates would be good for the economy right now. At least it we would think it was good because we'd see a lot more money floating around, right? It catches up to you eventually. So this was the decision. This is Kevin Walsh and his first press conference as the Fed chairman, and they decided to, well, keep interesting.

SPEAKER_23 57:46

As we saw a few moments ago, the committee decided to maintain the target range for the Fed funds rate at three and a half to three and three-quarters percent in support of the Fed's dual mandate. The committee also reaffirmed its policy of maintaining ample reserves in the banking system. Economic activity is expanding at a solid pace, despite elevated uncertainty that owes in part to the conflict in the Middle East. Productivity growth and capital investment both strong. Job gains have kept pace with the workforce, and the unemployment rate has changed little. We recognize that inflation has been running well ahead of the Fed's long-stated inflation goal of two percent. That's been going on for more than five years. Persistently high prices are a burden for the American people. But the recent past need not be prologued. I am pleased to report that members of the FOMC are unambiguous and unanimous. This committee will deliver price stability. At any institution, a change in leadership is a natural and timely opportunity to reaffirm its mission, to review current practices, and to consider whether those practices best meet our objectives. My Fed colleagues and I will be working in close collaboration to ask what changes might improve the conduct of monetary policy. On that score, you might have already noticed something, a difference in today's policy statement. It's a bit shorter, a bit simpler, and it dispenses with some older language. That statement just gives you the facts, as best we can judge it. Absent also is so-called forward guidance, which we agreed was not well suited to the current policy conjuncture. This afternoon, you also received the usual summary of economic projections. It's been the practice of this committee for participants to submit these projections, and I have encouraged my colleagues to continue to do so. I, however, have refrained from offering any projections of my own, consistent with my long-held views on the SCP, at least as currently structured. In the median projections, real GDP rises at 2.2% this year, 2.3% next year, and total PC inflation runs at 3.6% this year, 2.3% next year. The unemployment rate stands at about 4.3%. The median participant was at the appropriate federal funds rate to be at 3.8% at the end of this year, and 3.6 at the end of next. Okay.

SPEAKER_02 1:00:52

So interest rates are going to stay the same. We're essentially going to have the same policy for at least the next six weeks. But Kevin Walsh did say something that was really interesting at this. He admitted something that, to my knowledge, no other federal governor or federal chairman has admitted openly.

SPEAKER_23 1:01:12

That's exactly what we're going to do. Um in the Fed's review of its strategy over the last any number of years, in January, the Fed, including the strategy that we're still bound by, the Fed statement says that inflation is primarily determined by monetary policy. You bet it is. I've said for years inflation is a choice. You bet it is. And today I'm announcing that this committee unambiguously and unanimously have decided we are going to deliver on that. The rest of your questions sounded like an encouragement for me to give forward guidance. We've dropped forward guidance. Uh, some along the committee, I think, dropped it, I suspect, from our discussion the last couple of days, because they said at this moment in time, it doesn't feel as though providing forward guidance is right. Others have, I'd say, different views and think as a general proposition, forward guidance isn't the business we should be in. But that'll be taken up by the task force on communications and my policymaker uh colleagues. We're gonna listen hard to what the experts say and make our own decision. Um, but I can't give any forward guidance about what we're gonna do next. The good so inflation is a choice.

SPEAKER_02 1:02:26

God, where where was that when Janet Yellen was at the treasury? It's transitory, it just happens, nobody can control this. No, it is a choice. When your price of goods go up over time, I'm not talking about, you know, they killed all the chickens and now the cost of eggs are more expensive. Then we got the flock back, and now the cost of eggs are at an all-time low. I'm not talking about that. That's a supply thing. That's actual laws of economics, right? What I'm talking about is when you've got a new trillion dollars every year chasing the same pound of salt, right? The same dozen eggs of eggs, the same steak, the same house. That inflation is absolutely a choice. So one of the other things is they're not gonna do forward projections. What does this mean? It means that we don't know what they're gonna do in six weeks. We're not tipped off. The way it's been before is they go, next time we meet, we might raise the rates. Well, that encourages people to hurry up and go out and borrow today. Or they'll go, oh, we're gonna lower rates. That discourages people from borrowing today. Or it affects people's activity in the stock market. And they're saying, no, just read the economy for what it is. You make your own decisions. Let the market react to what it's seeing in the market, not to what they think we're seeing.

SPEAKER_07 1:03:38

Yeah, not the tip-off.

SPEAKER_02 1:03:39

Not the tip-off, exactly. That's really good. The other thing, too, is what he mentioned there that half of the group didn't want to do future projections because we might have peace in the Middle East and the Strait of Hormoose might open up, and we don't want to be, you know, on the wrong side of that bet.

SPEAKER_07 1:03:54

Okay, which is good. It's hard to project stuff when you don't know how a war is gonna turn out.

SPEAKER_02 1:03:59

Yeah, now if you're in the market for a home loan, what he just said directly affects you. Rates are gonna stay high. So what are you gonna do? You're gonna gamble and wait six weeks, or are you gonna, you know, what are you gonna do? You have to wait. Well, you could just opt out, go the Bitcoin way, and then it wouldn't matter. They'd be oh, please print, print. I get richer. Okay. You bet against the what? The monster, the system, the smoke monster we call the government, the people who think that they can control your lives, who know that inflation is a choice, and continue to choose to inflate away your life savings. 60% based on the government's assessment, the dollar has lost 60% of its purchasing power since 9-11.

SPEAKER_07 1:04:42

I believe that.

SPEAKER_02 1:04:43

In 9-11, I was making $5.25 an hour working at a sandwich shop. Oogie Ogie. What that means is today that would be about what $13 an hour?

SPEAKER_06 1:04:54

Yeah. Right.

SPEAKER_02 1:04:55

So that would be like today a kid getting a job at $13 an hour. That's their assessment. You go talk to people who assess this as independent third parties, it could be as much as 90%. 90%. So a dollar saved, you know, if I work my butt off in high school and I save a dollar, a dollar out of every hour that I work, I would have essentially saved 10 cents.

SPEAKER_07 1:05:18

You know, I was thinking about this yesterday. I was thinking, you know, there used to be these stories that I would hear when I was a kid, like, oh, when I was a kid, I bought a Snickers bar for a nickel. You know, those stories don't play anymore.

SPEAKER_02 1:05:32

Yeah, it's like, I wish I could still buy it for a nickel.

SPEAKER_07 1:05:36

I know, but what I'm saying is is that, you know, when I was a kid, you know, inflation, you know, you could feel it over uh, you know, 50 years you could see the Snickers bar rising in price. Now there's nothing to attach the rise in the price to. It's like, why is a Snickers bar cost uh two dollars? Yeah. I mean, I mean, if I if I told my grandkids I have When I was a kid, I bought a Snickers bar for fifty-five cents. It doesn't mean anything. It doesn't mean the same thing as, you know, your grandpa telling you they bought it for a nickel. It's not, it's not the same thing.

SPEAKER_02 1:06:11

It's just expected. Is that what you're saying? What do you mean?

SPEAKER_07 1:06:14

Uh I'm gonna have to think about this harder, I guess, to explain it better.

SPEAKER_02 1:06:19

I always the way I viewed inflation was simple. When I was a kid, you could buy a cheap knockoff soda for a quarter, and you could buy a name brand for between 50 and 75 cents. It was three quarters in the vending machine for a Coke. Right. Now you go to that same vending machine, sitting in the gym or wherever you're at, and it's like $225 to buy that same Coke. Coke hasn't changed.

unknown 1:06:42

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:06:43

Well, they tried a little thing where they went to a bad recipe and then they went back to original Coke. But aside from that, right? Aside from that, Coke hasn't changed. So Trump was asked on the tarmac about what he thought about interest rates being flat, staying the same.

SPEAKER_15 1:06:58

That's all right. Whatever. And it looks like they might even raise them later this year's doctor. Do you have any case? That should happen. I mean, I it's hard to believe. It just keeps the country down. You know, so it's so unusual. But we have a very good guy over there now, so I'm guided by what he wants to do. Was this his first uh yeah? I don't know, right? I saw a statement, it just came out.

SPEAKER_02 1:07:25

Yeah, he's that's okay, whatever. At least they didn't go up. He wishes they would have come down. If they wish it would have, you know, he wants them to come down, and I think there's some reasons for that. We're trying to rebuild America, but again, this idea that now we as a nation are rebuilding, they're spending your money. They're spending your money. And if you want to know how they view that money, there's no better example between the than the debate between the crypto world and the banking world, right? So here is, I can't remember his name. I think he's a senator. He's on with Maria Bartolomo and he's talking about the Clarity Act and kind of the difference between the two. Tell me which side do you think that Americans should be on? The side of banks and more and more regulation, or the side of the crypto world who just wants to be free.

SPEAKER_21 1:08:16

Well, um, I think it's noble of Jamie Diamond to look out for all the little guys, but the reality is that every time we add a regulation, um, the the crypto side says too much. And every time we uh don't add one, the banks say, well, it's not fair. And I get that. There are two sides. I frankly listen to everybody. At the end of the day, however, I think just as your previous uh segment on AI, um crypto is the same thing. If the United States doesn't lead with our values and and our light touch uh regulatory regime, then this industry is gonna go offshore. We we have to be at the forefront of this. So I don't give anybody else the veto power over my boat, but we do have to get it right.

SPEAKER_02 1:09:00

We do have to get it right. The crypto world's like too much regulation, and the banking world's like not enough. The banking world wants control, and why is that? Because they're embedded in government now, totally embedded. They they operate one in the same, right? Fit monetary policy affects all of our uh political policies, and it affects your everyday life, period. Well, I think that the dollar also feels threatened by Bitcoin, it does feel threatened by Bitcoin and cryptocurrencies, big time should should feel threatened. Now, I think the Clarity Act is gonna marry up the dollar to the crypto world, that's my belief. And you know what? It'll be more efficient, probably be a little bit better, stop a lot of crimes, whatever. I'm cool with it. I understand that Bitcoin is the way, right? Bitcoin is how you can get some some sovereignty, but institutionalizing and allowing the larger buyers to invest in Bitcoin is gonna be good for holders of Bitcoin for sure.

Illinois Bitcoin Tax And Regulatory Control

SPEAKER_02 1:09:53

But over uh yesterday, Illinois did something that no other state has done. The trend up till now is states have been making crypto policy. So, for example, in Florida, they have no capital gains on Bitcoin. I think Missouri might be the same, South Carolina. Like all these different states have basically been inviting the crypto world, the tech world, into their states by eliminating capital gains and income tax on Bitcoin, right? You're only taxed on actual income, that kind of stuff.

SPEAKER_07 1:10:21

Illinois went-ups at policy of Washington State.

SPEAKER_02 1:10:24

Yeah, Illinois went a different direction. Okay. Illinois went a different direction. To my knowledge, they're the first ones to go this direction. And what they're trying to do is they're trying to keep their state citizens on the dollar. Why? Because they have incredibly high taxes that they use to pay for incredibly stupid stuff. I drove through Chicago a month or two ago. I wasn't really impressed. I wasn't really impressed. From the interstate, you can see, you know, vacant buildings and closed-up shops and stuff like that. Wasn't really impressed. But they have a large social safety net. They're paying for a lot of programs. I'm sure there's a lot of NGOs. So Illinois just signed the most aggressive Bitcoin tax in U.S. history. Starting January 2027, the state will impose a 0.20% tax on the gross value of digital assets exchanged, transferred or stored for customers. So if you have two wallets and you transfer funds from one wallet to another, 20% just for transferring it, even though you never sold it. Yep. Buy Bitcoin, it's taxed. Transfer Bitcoin, it's taxed. Hold it with a custodian, it's taxed. No profit required, no capital gain. Just moving a digital asset triggers the tax.

SPEAKER_07 1:11:29

How can they even do this? It's a digital asset. They're in a physical location. How can they even enforce this?

SPEAKER_02 1:11:36

Voluntary enforcement. But they're, you know, a lot of people just gonna do it because they're told to do it. Here's the thing about this. This amendment on their little budget bill was added the day that it was voted on. It was voted on in the middle of the night. It was signed the next morning to be JB Pritzker. So this blindsided Illinois. Like nobody saw this coming. Right? Move 1 million through a bank wire, ACH, or brokerage, and Illinois takes nothing. Move the same one million as a digital asset, and the state takes $2,000. There's no comparable tax on stocks, bonds, derivatives, bank deposits, or any traditional financial transaction anywhere in the country. The message to every Bitcoin company in Illinois is clear. Leave. This is incredible. If you want to send money through the bank, zero dollars, exchange on it through crypto assets, two thousand dollars, save money.

SPEAKER_25 1:12:27

Save money. Unbelievable. Unfriggin' believable.

SPEAKER_02 1:12:33

Illinois, the land of Lincoln. Oh my goodness. So another thing that Donald Trump does, because again, the nation is a collective, right? It is a collective. So it kind of kind of ties in, right? It's like, okay, well, we really need to make America great again because if we if we want to have you know America's behavior overseas circa 2006 to 2015, I don't want to participate in that, right? I don't want to participate in that. But I think that things are changing. I'm

Intel Shares And Rebuilding Industry

SPEAKER_02 1:13:26

a huge supporter of the Trump administration, obviously. The technology world relies relies on the technology the world relies on was invented in America. We all remember Intel Inside. Stupid presidents took our economy for granted and let Taiwan and others still are semiconductor factories. They forgot to protect our industries with tariffs. When I won my second term, third actually, it was it was clear America needed its semiconductor industry to come back to the USA. We designed everything, but we need to build it here now. So I decided to help Intel because we need to design our chips right here in America. So what he did with Intel was the Biden administration gave him like a $20 billion grant and they didn't need it. They were literally just throwing money at them. And so they came back to Trump and they're like, Do you want us to refund the money? And it was like, oh, unbelievable. Actually, it's kind of hard to refund the money the way the system's set up. But what if we do this? What if we get stock for it? What if you can put it on your balance sheet as capital and give the United States stock? What does that mean? All of our asset holdings offset the national debt, right? That's why the Fed is willing to lend us all this money is because we have all these great public parks. Like literally, Yellowstone is mortgaged. Okay. Like our public, our entire public world is mortgaged. Even your deposits in the bank account are mortgaged based on the Frank Dodd Act. They can do a bail-in and take your deposits to you know offset the national debt or whatever. And so buying this stock in Intel offsets some national debt. It becomes part of the resources that we're borrowing against. So it started with that. Now, so I decided to help Intel because we need to design our chips right here in America. First, we helped bring in Nvidia and they agreed to build their first level chips with Intel. Next, Elon agreed to build his Terrafob, the largest chip factory in the world, designed together with Intel's technology team. And finally, Apple has agreed to work with Intel to design and build chips in America. We decided to help Intel in exchange for 10% of their shares. Is that too much or too little? They were worth around $100 billion when we made our offer. Now they are worth $600 billion, nine months, nine months. And they've increased their value over half a trillion dollars. America's stake is now $60 billion. When was the last time a president made money? Thank you for your attention to this matter, President Donald J. Trump.

SPEAKER_07 1:15:44

Wow. Yeah. Yeah. That means you and I both made like 10 bucks.

SPEAKER_02 1:15:50

Yeah. Well sweet. The question is, what are they going to do with this? Are they going to encumber it for more debt, or will they selectively sell it off to pay for services? Right? That's the question.

SPEAKER_07 1:16:02

Well, or can they leverage it to grow?

SPEAKER_02 1:16:06

Yeah, I don't know. It'll be interesting. Donald Trump's treating the nation like a corporation and he's making investments. Not only is he bringing businesses home to the country, which is what we want, those are our jobs. He's also bringing investment to the nation, right? He's redollarizing the world and strengthening the dollar. Not a bad thing for my brothers and sisters. No. Not a bad thing, right? Not a bad thing. Here is here is, and this extends to other things that Trump is doing, making good decisions with how we spend our money.

NATO Dues Iran Deal And Alliances

SPEAKER_02 1:16:36

For example, we've been throwing money away at NATO. He Heggseth addressed this.

SPEAKER_09 1:16:39

I know they felt the MP. We were clear, uh, publicly and privately. We're not gonna allow free voting anymore. Our dues, our NATO dues, our contingent upon other countries free. And so it's not as if this is a new from President Trump or from B. And that's why most countries are responding to publicly and behind closed doors, straight to hear country after country saying we're gonna meet our target, we're gonna meet our target. There are still a few outliers. Uh and we will be clear with them as we do this review. Uh we'll change how we look at the continent uh as a result.

SPEAKER_02 1:17:21

So what he's saying there is the NATO, right? All the countries that are part of NATO are supposed to pay some dues to prop up the worldwide military force that the United States is mostly behind. And a lot of countries just stopped paying their dues. This is a huge policy shift.

SPEAKER_10 1:17:40

That's not what uh Winston Churchill or Charles de Gaulle or Conrad Adenauer wanted or expected. No, Europe was supposed to be a military power allied with a strong America. This is the essence of NATO 1.0. As Dwight Eisenhower himself said as early as 1951, if in ten years all American troops stationed in Europe for national defense purposes have not been returned to the United States, then this whole process will have failed. Eisenhower was Supreme Allied commander then, not yet our nation's thirty-fourth president. But he and his Allied counterparts, all of them still living in the shadow of World War II, understood that NATO's power did not come from committees or from meetings or from small flags on fancy tables. It came from warriors. And for Europe's defense, it had come from NATO allies. That was NATO 1.0. A hard-edged warfighting organization focused on Europe's defense. But that spirit faded.

SPEAKER_02 1:18:52

It comes from the warriors. And who are the warriors? The people. And if you want the people to fight in a war, it better be justified. They better actually be defending their own land. They better actually be defending their homes, families, and communities. What they've done is they've taken it from NATO was for the war fighters to defend their homeland, and they turned it into something where we were defending the business model. And they got weak because those decisions NATO became small flags on a desk and committees of people. It didn't become anything real. NATO doesn't control the members of NATO don't typically contribute the soldiers who actually sacrifice. It's a small fragile.

SPEAKER_07 1:19:34

Do you know that much about NATO? I don't. Um I was just wondering who all the member nations are and which ones are the deadbeats. And are they deadbeats because they just don't have the money, or are they making choices with their money?

SPEAKER_02 1:19:47

They're deadbeats because nobody asks them to pay. That's why. It literally is as time has gone on, you know, economies go up and down, and Poland gets into a little bit of a pickle financially, and so they look at their budget and they go, let's not pay NATO. I don't think America will back out.

SPEAKER_07 1:20:04

Right. So they're just being a deadbeat. Being a deadbeat, exactly.

SPEAKER_02 1:20:07

And but the but this is a huge policy shift. Listen, you want joint defense, you have to pay. And by the way, we won't pay our dues unless you pay yours. Yeah. And all of a sudden they're going, Oh, because you know those warriors that actually are NATO, they're all English-speaking Americans. Right? So maybe Germany should pony up a little bit. Maybe France should pony up a little bit. And nothing makes this more clear than how weak and feckless NATO was in the eyes of Iran. Right? This was Donald Trump signing the memorandum of understanding that the Ayatollah already signed at his G7 meeting at a dinner in France. There he is, signing it. Memorandum of understanding. Now, what is that gonna mean? I don't know. I don't know. Does does Iran keep its commitments? I don't know. But for all the people out there, especially some of the far-right Magtards, what's his name called him, right? As or is Trump, I think even Trump might have called him that. I can't remember. The Tucker Carlsons and the Megan Kelly's, they kind of got proven wrong. They kind of got proven wrong. You know that whole story that Trump was doing Netanyahu's bidding and America is completely taken over by Israel. Turns out, as this conflict is being resolved, uh maybe, maybe not.

SPEAKER_15 1:21:29

It's appropriate that we released the agreement. And we did send a copy to Israel, by the way.

SPEAKER_11 1:21:33

We sent Israel a copy of the agreement. Well, you sent them a copy, did you? You BCC'd them. We just reached the outline of a peace agreement with the country we are fighting with Israel without consulting Israel. Bitch. That's exactly what that means. Shh, adultery talking. At one point, he said, you know, I just think it's it's just too much. I think going forward, we may leave the fight against Hezbollah to Jelani, who runs Syria. Now, Jelani, of course, is a former Al-Qaeda leader. He's just a more reasonable person. If you're looking for humane treatment of civilians, you gotta go to the Al-Qaeda guy, not the Israeli Prime Minister.

SPEAKER_02 1:22:06

That's what the president said. It's unbelievable. Hey, our country's run by Israel. Maybe not. Maybe not. I think that's super funny, man. Super funny. Oh my goodness. Here's another thing, too, and I'm very concerned about this.

Solar Panel Fires And Energy Risks

SPEAKER_02 1:22:24

You remember that that fire that broke out in that medical building in Tracy, California? Yes. Turns out with the solar panels.

SPEAKER_01 1:22:31

The concern is with the solar panels on top of the facility. There hasn't necessarily been a major fire inside, Gill. I don't know if you have updated information on that or confirmation that this the roof is really what is burning at this time, not necessarily inside the warehouse.

SPEAKER_02 1:22:47

Yeah, it was the roof with the solar panels that caught on fire.

SPEAKER_07 1:22:51

In that clip, there they showed a guy walking across the roof.

SPEAKER_02 1:22:55

That was one of the firefighters. Okay, they're trying to put it out. Now, another solar plant caught fire yesterday outside of LA. So we had one in Tracy, California.

SPEAKER_07 1:23:05

I didn't even know solar panels could catch on fire. I didn't either. So they like all combust at like 110 degrees or what? I mean, this is not good.

SPEAKER_02 1:23:13

I have my wonder. One, this could just be literally sabotage, a gallon of gas, get it going, and then it goes. It could maybe that's pretty, I don't know. Maybe. I mean, how much is a solar system worth? This could be a cyber attack that turns around and like overclocks them or you know, sends feedback through it and sparks them up, gets them too hot. Could be that. But outside of LA, there was another one. Oh there it is. There's the solar panels just up in planes. Okay. Now this one is close to LA, and it actually caused the LA skyline. Look at this.

SPEAKER_07 1:23:49

Oh man.

SPEAKER_02 1:23:50

Look at that.

SPEAKER_07 1:23:51

You don't want to breathe that.

SPEAKER_02 1:23:56

Toxic, toxic. Yeah. Put the nuclear power plant out in the desert. It'll run just fine. You don't need those solar panels. I don't need no solar panels next to my house. These things apparently just randomly combust. I think the only way to keep them from combusting is to paint them blue. Isn't that the whole, you know, avoid the energy weapons or something like that?

SPEAKER_07 1:24:14

Yeah, I think if you paint the uh the blades on those on those uh wind turbines blue, I don't think they kill any birds if you paint them blue.

SPEAKER_06 1:24:23

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:24:25

Maybe. Oh, anyways, pretty interesting. You know, some crazy stuff happening there. Solar panels apparently popping off all over California. That's interesting.

Newsom Investigations Epstein And Media Spin

SPEAKER_02 1:24:35

Speaking of California, Gavin Newsom's got some serious problems. Uh-oh. Yeah, Gavin Newsom.

SPEAKER_19 1:24:40

Breaking right now out of California. Democratic governor Gavin Newsom claims that President Trump and the DOJ are, quote, coming after him and those around him by trying to find a crime, his words that does not exist. Uh, and what Newsom calls an attempt to intimidate him. Here we go. Listen.

SPEAKER_20 1:25:01

Donald Trump isn't just coming after me because of my mean tweets. He's coming after me because I'm considering running for president. Because he hates that I consistently called him out over and over again for his lies and deceit. Donald Trump is simply the most corrupt president in American history. He's turned the levers of government into his own personal power ministries to reward cronies and to try to jail his opponents. Well, let me say it again. Mr. President, come after me. I'm not going anywhere. The country is watching.

SPEAKER_19 1:25:38

Okay, so that is Fresh Sound from California, just about an hour ago now. No comment to Fox and the DOJ as of this hour. A source there saying that there are several investigations into people around Newsom, including his wife and his former chief of staff, and they originate from whistleblowers. Fox News asking for clarity out of Newsom's office around what he means when he says the DOJ is demanding records that has not been defined. We'll update you as soon as we get more word on that.

SPEAKER_02 1:26:10

So it turns out this investigation actually started under the Biden administration. Now they might have just used it as leverage. That's a little unfortunate. Yeah, but it turns out his wife takes a $3.7 million salary from their nonprofit that's funded by state funds. They've got some other things going on. Obviously, his chief of staff just pled guilty to a bunch of wire transfer fraud, blah, blah, blah, you know, tax.

SPEAKER_07 1:26:32

Well, I wonder how long it'll take to find a crime.

SPEAKER_02 1:26:36

I've got a feeling at this point, you know, they became aware of the investigation because people in their life were getting accosted by federal investigators. You know, like, hey, what's going on here? What's funny about this is it's kind of trying to rewrite the playbook they used against Donald Trump and they're trying to take it for themselves. You know, he's only coming after me because of not because of my mean tweets, because I'm running for president. Oh, so like when you raided Mar a Lago? Oh, that you know what I mean? Like, they're trying to get that same sympathy. They think that they think that people became sympathetic with Trump when he was being targeted. So now they're trying to reverse that.

SPEAKER_07 1:27:10

That's what happened, people. It's not gonna work for Newsom either. Not at all.

SPEAKER_02 1:27:15

Not at all. In fact, Fox News, and to my knowledge, this is the first time Fox News actually ran this as a news piece. But when it comes to the Jeffrey Epstein thing, remember, uh JD Vance got on the view and was like, actually, Jeffrey Epstein was turned in by Donald Trump, right? They were not friends, they were kind of enemies in the end. Well, Fox News picked up that story six months late, right? When it was when it was uh um, what's his name? Massey and MTG, they were more than happy to join in with CNN and jump on the Trump's protecting pedophiles, or at least leave that door open. Turns out that wasn't ever really the case, but you know, Fox News is about six months late to the party.

SPEAKER_24 1:27:58

Claiming they were best friends for years. Now, records actually show that Epstein, Epstein hated the president, you know, because he turned him into the cops. And the convicted, pervy, alleged sex peddler, diddler. Well, he came up empty when he went shopping for dirt to save himself. Tonight we're also learning more about his final days. As you point out, according to the New York Times, if you believe such things, Epstein allegedly tried to commit suicide multiple times before he was eventually found dead. FBI agents said his cell was filled with ropes and sheets and other linens.

SPEAKER_02 1:28:31

Here's trying to tie the It's filled with ropes and sheets and other linens. Yeah, he may have killed himself. Who freaking knows? I don't know that we'll ever know unless you get some kind of confession and prosecution. It'll always be in the annals of conspiracy theories.

SPEAKER_07 1:28:46

Just because this is a conspiracy show, I'm gonna stick in the camp of I think he's alive.

SPEAKER_02 1:28:52

You think he flew on a private jet down to Antarctica?

SPEAKER_07 1:28:56

I don't know.

SPEAKER_02 1:28:58

Who knows? All right, guys, we're gonna jump

Parental Rights Federal Funding Leverage

SPEAKER_02 1:29:01

over to private. We're gonna hear from Harmeet Dillon. The federal government is stepping up the protection of your children big time. And they're using the levers of power that the Democrats left for us, and really George Bush Jr. left for us with the No Child Left Behind Act. It's an interesting tie-in here. So the very tools that they used to destroy our civic system, our social fabric through the school system, that the Republicans under Donald Trump, in order to make America great again, are trying to turn the tie to that. Again, it's the levers, right? I don't agree that these levers exist, but if they do, thank goodness they're in the hands of people who want to do good with it. We're also going to talk about one of our local judges here in Kitsap County. That is a problem. And I'm going to tie a whole story in with that. And then we're going to talk about Steve Baker and his law and the how he got sued by the alleged J6 pipe bomber, the female Capitol Hill police officer. And there's they've basically moved to summary judgment in that case. And I'm going to read a little bit about Steve Baker's motion to not to set aside the judgment and proceed to trial. So we'll talk about that for a second. All right, we're going to jump over to private. We'll talk to the unoffendables there. All right, unoffendables. So here's Harmeat Dylan. Now, what happened is traditionally the education system has been left up to the states, right? You get school board levy, you get school levies, you pay the taxes locally based off property taxes. It goes to support your local school system. Because the taxes are collected locally, they're controlled by the school board, right? And there's a lot of accountability. The school boards are usually made up of parents in the community, they have their hearings, people come and talk. Well, when the No Child Left Behind Act started to happen, suddenly there was a source of funds that wasn't coming from your property taxes. The money was coming from the federal government, right? They're just printing the money. It's not associated with taxes. It's essentially free money to the school district. So rather than raise your local property taxes, they could just accept a grant from the federal government, Department of Education, for a couple million bucks, but they had to put certain books in the school, or they had to include certain curriculum, or they had to do certain things. Okay. Now, in a world where those grants were tied to benchmarks like graduation, reading literacy, test scores, okay, maybe we'd see something there, but it wasn't, right? The money was typically associated with introducing some program to the school district that the school district may or in fact may not have wanted. Well, Harmeet Dillon is using that power, the power of the federal purse strengths, to turn things around. Because I would venture to say 99% of school districts in America are now addicted to federal money. They don't raise enough money in local property taxes to cover their operating expenses. They need these federal grants. So what better opportunity to turn things around?

SPEAKER_12 1:31:55

Today is a new day for parental rights in America. I'm thrilled to announce that the Department of Justice's Civil Rights Division and the Department of Education's Office for Civil Rights have just signed a historic interagency agreement to protect you, your children, and your families in our nation's schools. Years ago, Congress passed two clear, powerful laws. First, the Family Educational Rights and Privacy Act, aka FERPA, and second, the Protection of Pupil Rights Amendment, PPRA. Those laws are simple and clear. A school cannot hide your child's educational records or curriculum from you, and it cannot force your child to discuss sensitive topics without your consent. But too many schools have ignored these protections, twisted the rules, and kept parents in the dark exactly when their children needed them the most. That ends today. This new partnership between the departments of justice and education gives real teeth to what the law already says. Federally funded schools cannot hide information from you or shut you out of decisions about your own child's education. Under Acting Attorney General Todd Blanche's leadership, the Justice Department is delivering on President Trump's promise. We are restoring parental authority, shielding children from ideological indoctrination, and making sure every dollar of federal funding supports common sense education. I have directed the Civil Rights Division to use every single tool we have. No more bureaucratic delays, no more endless paperwork. We're cutting through the red tape and we're taking decisive action. If a school has a policy or practice that blocks you from exercising your rights, we will investigate. If necessary, we will litigate. And if a school continues to violate the law, then that school will not receive federal funds anymore. Parents, your voice is back. Your rights are being enforced, and your children's future is safer than ever. This is real change you'll be able to see, and it starts right now.

SPEAKER_07 1:34:07

That's pretty cool. You know, my brain is on overload, I guess, because I can't even hear these people talk anymore, even though I know what she's saying is, you know, things that are good for me. I can't even hear it anymore. Why is that? I think I just like I think maybe I've been mentally abused for too long. It's like I just don't believe anymore. I don't believe the words anymore. It's like, you know, I've heard so many words with so little action, I just don't believe anymore.

SPEAKER_02 1:34:36

Yeah, a lot of hope and change.

SPEAKER_07 1:34:38

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:34:38

A lot of hope and change. A lot of back when Clinton, you know, NATO will be good for America. It was horrible. You're right. You're right. And here's the thing: this is a poison pill.

SPEAKER_03 1:34:48

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:34:49

This is a last ditch effort to kind of course correct and use these tools that the government shouldn't have in the first place. They shouldn't be funding schools. It's not the federal government's job. Shouldn't be funding schools. Right now, are they gonna, you know, use those tools now to make sure parents have a look into their kids' education? Apparently. Is that a good thing? Sure, let's give it some time. I'd love, I'd love to see them, you know, ramp up tens of thousands of lawsuits against all these different schools that have problems. Just recently here in Washington, was it Longview? We had a school superintendent that was arrested for covering up a sex assault at the school.

SPEAKER_03 1:35:25

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:35:25

Right? How brazen were they that they thought that they didn't have to disclose it to the parents, they didn't even have to report it to law enforcement.

SPEAKER_07 1:35:32

Well, it's it's it was a for the people that aren't that don't know, this was a shall report situation. And they they did it.

SPEAKER_02 1:35:39

It was not an option, yeah.

Local Judge Controversy And Public Safety

SPEAKER_02 1:35:42

So this is coming out of the Olympic Herald, Anthony Tolma Feski, and this this is talking about a child molester evaded a prison sentence thanks to a special sex offender sentencing alternative. And this is out of Klollam County, but there's an interesting tie-in to Kitsap County here. In Washington State, judicial dysfunction often takes different forms. Here on the Olympic peninsula, our readers are acutely aware of the systemic rot inside the Klollam County court system, a jurisdiction plagued by an 18-month case backlogs, a hostile environment for crime victims, and a two-tier justice system that caters to the well-connected. Neighboring Kitsap County, by contrast, generally boasts a highly competent and constitutionally sound bench. Kitsap Superior Court is anchored by respected judges who have earned stellar reputations for upholding the law and strictly defending fundamental rights. But there is one glaring, politically insulated exception sitting on the Kitsap County bench who continues to leave the public asking who the justice system is truly protecting. Judge Cadeen Ferguson Brown. So Judge Cadeen Ferguson Brown originally was a judge down in Mason County. She was appointed by the governor. Okay. She lost her seat in an election to a judge who's now running for the Washington State Supreme Court. Forgive me, I can't remember his name. After she lost the election, the voters overwhelming her threw her off that bench. The judge, the governor then appointed her to the Kittsap County bench. So she completely lost the trust of one county and then was appointed by the governor to a new county, Kitsap County. That's this judge. That's how Washington works, folks. And on June 5th, 2026, 58-year-old Silverdale resident John Michael Daly was sentenced in Kitsap County Superior Court for sexually abusing his two biological daughters over a four-year period. Despite sentencing guidelines that called for years in a state penitentiary, Daly walked away with a suspended sentence, which requires him to serve just 12 months in the county jail. For citizens of Clollum County, this Kittsap case serves as a blaring, terrifying alarm. To manage their deeply broken dockets, Clollum County administrators frequently use Judge Ferguson Brown in our community as a visiting judge. If you want to know what kind of justice our local court administrators are voluntarily bringing into Clawham County, look no further than the sickening details of the John Daly case. And we don't need to go into the details, but it was bad. Right? The sentence, given the severity of the crimes, the standard sentencing range for Daly's first degree child molestation charge was 67 to 89 months in prison. I'll keep I'll let you know I had 84 months for pushing a bike rack, okay, for horrific crimes against his kids over a four-year period. He's in he's in the same sentencing guideline range I was. That alone tells you there's a problem. Okay. Yet rather than imposing a lengthy term in the custody of the Department of Corrections, Judge Ferguson Brown granted Daly a special sex offender sentencing alternative. Under this alternative, she imposed a 78-month prison. Six months less than I got sentence, but immediately suspended it for the remainder of Daly's life. I would have been pretty happy if my judge would have suspended my sentence. Instead of state prison, a man who caused his own child to bleed from sexual assault was ordered to serve just 12 months in the Kittsap County jail with credit for time served already. He was placed on community custody in order to complete outpatient treatment. AKA, he got let free. People need to feel respected, right? Judge Ferguson Brown's willingness to deploy in a case involving years of severe child sex abuse makes absolute sense if you listen to her own words. In an October 2023 interview on KMAS Radio, Judge Ferguson explicitly laid out her digital philosophy regarding convicted criminals, bragging about how she runs her courtroom. She openly admitted that prioritizing the feelings of criminals is paramount to her approach. They don't feel as if just because they might be the one accused of a crime or even convicted of a crime, they don't feel any less than anyone else. I believe that's very important because people need to feel respected. That's how we get people to become rehabilitated, you know? We're not treating them as discarded. She continued, okay, you committed a crime. Now you're going to have to be responsible for that. But while we're holding you accountable, you get another opportunity to prove yourself. This is ideologically driving the gavel. A convicted child Melissa abused his five-year-old and nine-year-old daughters, but in Judge Ferguson's courtroom, ensuring the offender feels respected is apparently the priority. An anomaly from the bench, Ferguson Brown's style of jurisprudence is completely out of step with Kittsup County's standard of excellence. Her tenure on the bench has instead been defined by political insulation and extreme leniency towards violent offenders. Why? She's clearly connected to the governor's office. That's how she gets her jobs. In November 2023, just weeks after KMAS radio interview, voters in Mason County formerly ousted her from office at the ballot box, rejecting her by a massive 15-point margin. But the clear will of the voters meant nothing to the political establishment. Less than two months, I might have said two weeks, less than two months after she was democratically removed from office, Governor Jay Insley, honk if you love Inslee, intervened, immediately appointing her to a vacant superior court seat in Kitsapp County to bypass the voters.

SPEAKER_07 1:40:47

Man, I feel good.

SPEAKER_02 1:40:49

The rulings that cost her the Mason County election reveal exactly why she was ousted. In 2020, February 2023, she presided over a case of a man who poured gasoline on a rehab facility and set it ablaze in the middle of the night while nearly two dozen people slept inside. Police tracked him down. He fought them with a loaded flare gun. Despite this suspect admitting to a retaliatory domestic motive and attempting to burn down dozens of people alive, Ferguson Brown set his bail at a shockingly low $25,000. That very same month, she oversaw a case where a woman was accused of shooting her boyfriend multiple times in the face, chest and arm. Despite prosecutors requesting $500,000 bail to protect public safety, Judge Ferguson Brown released the accused shooter a day later on a mere $5,000 bail. A warning for the peninsula. The broader systemic failures we have extensively documented in Clollam County, the crushing 18-month backlogs, the hostility toward domestic violence victims, the secret removal of victims' rights posters are institutional problems rooted in our own local courthouse. But Judge Brown, Ferguson Brown, seated in Kittsap County via political loophole, brings her own unique brand of danger wherever she wields the gavel. For a justice system that is supposed to protect the vulnerable, John Daly's 12-month sentence is a devastating betrayal. It proves that voters can actively reject a judge for endangering the public, only for political leads to reinstall her to pass judgment on the community's most horrific crimes so she can ensure convicted child molesters feel respected. John Daly While John Daly avoids years in a state penitentiary, his victims are left to suffer the consequences of a judiciary that continually refuses to hold abusers accountable. And if this is the standard of justice, Judge Ferguson Brown applies to a convicted child molester in her own courthouse, Column County residents should be horrified that our local court administrators are voluntarily bringing her into ours. That is another county afraid of our judge who was forced upon us by Jay Ensley. Now, when we talk about the scandal here in Wash in Kittsap County with our friend Daryl Dox, who's a Democrat, who's one of the people in charge of our elections, imagine if this judge gets the case. Now, I don't know if the jurisdiction's right. I don't know if he ends up going to a uh Bremerton PD court, but my understanding is crimes like this typically get adjudicated at the county and state level, right? So this will be very interesting. If he gets the lottery and gets this judge, he's politically connected, she's politically connected. Are we gonna see something like this happen? Right. I got a message. This story has moved into conspiracy world. Yeah, because we don't know what's going on behind the scenes, and that's a problem for us. That's a problem for

Pipe Bomber Lawsuit And Free Speech

SPEAKER_02 1:43:31

us. All right, another another judicial case is this January 6th pipe bomber, right? So Steve Baker et al have filed a motion to set aside the default entered against them for not responding to Shawnee Kirchhoff's lawsuit. They say they couldn't find an attorney and were looking to blaze for one. They also say they have a 1A defense, a hearing is set for next month. So because there was like a failure to reply, there was a judgment entered, and they're asking for it to be set aside. And one of the things they say here is they want to use the First Amendment as an argument in this case. The First Amendment protects the reporting at issue. In fact, where reporting touches on a matter of public concern or involves a public figure, the constitutional protection of the press reaches its apogee. That's its peak. In Bonk, a matter of public concern must be an issue of social, political, or other interest to a community. Even if the subject of speech is a private figure, the message may still concern a matter of public concern. The challenged reporting concerns an unsolved federal crime of intense public interest, placing this squarely within the First Amendment protections that govern defamation actions of this kind. Because a plaintiff is a public official, or at minimum a public figure, who injected herself into a matter of public controversy, she cannot recover unless she proves by clear and convincing evidence that individual defendants published with actual malice, that is, with knowledge that it was false or reckless with disregard to whether or not it was false. To the extent that the that the challenged reporting conveyed that a gate analysis comparison has been conducted and yielded a reported result, the individual defendants intend to establish the truth or substantial truth of what they actually reported as distinguished from the defamatory meaning the plaintiff attributes to. So they're saying, hey, listen, this is freedom of speech. It clearly falls into that, and we believe it's true.

SPEAKER_07 1:45:14

Which part is freedom of speech? I didn't understand.

SPEAKER_02 1:45:17

Reporting on the alleged pipe bomber, oh, Miss Kirchhoff. Okay, yeah. Why wouldn't it? Well, she doesn't feel that way. She feels malice. You're trying to go after me. And they're like, no, we we think we're reporting the truth, and that's our defense. So we'll see if the court system allows them to run with that defense, or they just shut them down. If the deep state intervenes, they're just nope, judgment, these guys are wrong. Look, now all the media can say that this was a false report. You see what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_03 1:45:41

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:45:41

Deplorable D2 says Jeffrey Epstein sent us. He got the same treatment in Palm Beach 2009-ish, slept in the county jail at night, and was let out to work during the day. I know. I know to work. I know.

Pledge Of Allegiance And Local Action

SPEAKER_02 1:45:53

All right, it's time for the Pledge of Allegiance. These are the things, right? Even a MAGA Republican falls into the camp of we need to make America great again because she has lost her way. Right? She has lost her way. And the duty is on you. What are you gonna do? Are you gonna continue to trip to tribute contribute to the system, or are you gonna opt out of the parts that are the worst, the banking system and everything that that upholds, and then go participate in civics? Go get involved locally at your local level. Make a difference, be the change you want to see in the world.

SPEAKER_07 1:46:25

It used to be that this is the point where you'd say, get out there and vote. Now I'm like, uh, man, I guess we still have to vote, but I hope it's voting might not be enough.

SPEAKER_02 1:46:35

Go out and be involved.

SPEAKER_07 1:46:37

Yeah. Right?

SPEAKER_02 1:46:37

You need to be involved in the call. Oh, by the way, this weekend on Saturday, there's going to be a Liberty and Lemonade event in Kitts Epp County, right off of Viking Way, just south of uh the Hudson Auto Center. You'll see the signs. It's right on the highway. It's where they the family there has a big, you know, Trump Vance sign in their yard. You probably see it when you drive down the Viking Way. Liberty and Liminated will be there 6 p.m. on Saturday evening. Come come join your local conservatives if you're in the neighborhood. So, all right, guys, thank you so much for joining us. We will talk to you again tomorrow. Bye.

Monty Python Style Outro

SPEAKER_16 1:48:02

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